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*Official* English Football Season 2012-13

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Play offs are evil anyway, no worse feeling than them going to pens.

Sadly can't see anything but a Swindle win here.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Would appeal to the football gods' sense of irony if the Bees won tho, but.

Hate to be Pothas right now. Must be sick.
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I was stupid enough to think that it might just be a comfortalbe win when we got that third, thought we were excellent for the first hour, should really have had it won by then.

As it is of course they had to put us through the **** again, you just knew that equaliser was coming.

So proud of all the penalty takers though.

It is not over of course, I have been dreading Yeovil in the play-off final for months already.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
To be fair, they might not have acted particularly honourably (if what the article says is true), but I'm not sure I'd call this sort of thing "shameful".
 

Uppercut

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Hmm it's pretty bad. Maybe if another company does this kind of thing then in general, fair enough. The world moves on and we can't let the attachment of a handful of fogies to the street they grew up in stunt a major economic and cultural investment in a city that needs it really badly.

For a football club it's pretty bad, particularly one with such a sentimental attachment to its origin and history. You can't claim to represent the values of a community then deliberately run it into the ground so you can cut costs on a new stadium.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
I suppose that is true, but at the end of the day, Football Clubs are businesses - particularly at the top levels where teams are basically global brands - regardless of what cultural ties they have, or purport to have. And as legal persons, they're entitled to own property and do what they like with it, just like anyone else.

That's not to say that what they are doing is right, I don't think it is, but it's hardly surprising that they engage in these sorts of practices. Big corporations will always look out for number one etc... Whether they are an investment bank or a football club.
 

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I definitely object to the notion that a football has no more of an obligation to society than any other corporation. I don't see how it's in the interests of society for football clubs to be run solely in the interests of their shareholders; I doubt it's even in the interests of the football club. I'm not one to hark after the pre-Premiership era but I certainly wouldn't want football to be shoehorned into the bog-standard profit-oriented business framework with no consideration of whether it's suitable for it or not. Markets are useful but they're there to serve people, not the other way round.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
I definitely object to the notion that a football has no more of an obligation to society than any other corporation. I don't see how it's in the interests of society for football clubs to be run solely in the interests of their shareholders; I doubt it's even in the interests of the football club. I'm not one to hark after the pre-Premiership era but I certainly wouldn't want football to be shoehorned into the bog-standard profit-oriented business framework with no consideration of whether it's suitable for it or not. Markets are useful but they're there to serve people, not the other way round.
I don't believe they should have no more of an obligation to society than any other corporation either, but in the eyes of the law, their obligations aren't any different, which is why it doesn't surprise me that this sort of thing happens. But as I say, that doesn't make it right.
 

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