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*Official* English Football Season 2011-12

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Tom Halsey

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Drogba being Chelsea's best player is irrelevant (this is debatable in any case), Barcelona have several better players in that area who don't clash with their style as horribly as Drogba would.

Cole and Terry would comfortably get in, not sure how you can argue with that. Terry >>> Puyol (even though what you say is true) and Cole would get in even without Adibal's liver problems, who hasn't had a great season anyway.

Cech was the one I was most unsure about given his obvious decline.
 
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Tom Halsey said:
Drogba being Chelsea's best player is irrelevant (this is debatable in any case), Barcelona have several better players in that area who don't clash with their style as horribly as Drogba would.

Cole and Terry would comfortably get in, not sure how you can argue with that. Terry >>> Puyol (even though what you say is true) and Cole would get in even without Adibal's liver problems, who hasn't had a great season anyway.

Cech was the one I was most unsure about given his obvious decline.
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Terry is one of the world's (not really, it's just certain sections of the English press that rates him anyway) most overrated players and has never seen the day when he was fit to shine Puyol's boots

Cant believe that anyone would suggest it really

Seriously, John ****ing Terry?

Imagine what Ronaldo would be thinking if he had to line up against that log this weekend
 
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Tom Halsey

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Terry may be slow (and a ****), but that's not to say he's a poor defender, especially compared to Puyol who has been a liability for a while.

I know it's only one game, but tonight was the perfect case in point. Terry played brilliantly, Barca in one of the few moments all game when they had to do any defensive work were terrible, with both Puyol and Mascherano positionally awful.
 
sledger

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Not sure myself. As Halz says, Mascherano's positioning was terrible, and Puyol's was scarcely any better. Don't think there's a lot between him and Puyol defensively tbh. Puyol better on the ball, a bit more mobile and better suited to Barcelona's style of play mind you. Pique leaps and bounds ahead of all of them though.
 
Jarquis

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Well yeah, Pique + Puyol >> Any other partnership of defenders you could make if Terry was at Barca.
 
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Pothas

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Mascherano has actually been ****ing good this season.

Pique may well best of the 3 but he has not had the best of season, made a few silly mistakes.

Anyway still expect Barca to get through but if Chelsea can get a goal things might be a little worrying.
 
TT Boy

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Having a central midfielder with no pace and no goal scoring ability play out wide in a front three isn’t the brightest of ideas. I know he is a local boy and all but Cesc is superfluous. Pedro is average but he would have buried all the chances Cesc squandered yesterday.

Great result for Chelsea, ordinary game and for the most part they were awful but they won't give a ****.
 
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Pothas

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Find it amusing how it has been heralded a tactical master class by some. No Chelsea did what most sides do against Barcelona and just hoped to get lucky, which they did.
 
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Tom Halsey said:
Drogba being Chelsea's best player is irrelevant (this is debatable in any case), Barcelona have several better players in that area who don't clash with their style as horribly as Drogba would.

Cole and Terry would comfortably get in, not sure how you can argue with that. Terry >>> Puyol (even though what you say is true) and Cole would get in even without Adibal's liver problems, who hasn't had a great season anyway.

Cech was the one I was most unsure about given his obvious decline.
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Agreed. But I still reckon that Cech would have done better with the Chelsea goal than the Barca keeper managed.

As a side issue, given De Matteo's short-term effect on a bunch of aging prima-donnas who had spent the last couole of years under-achieving, is he available to take England to the euros this summer?
 
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Going to go against form and completely disagree with Halsey. Terry playing in Barca's system would be beyond hilarious, does no one remember how he played when Villas-Boas tried to get Chelsea defending high up the pitch? He's hopeless at the halfway line, only good in his own third where none of Barcelona's matches are ever played. I reckon Guardiola would take Luiz and Cahill over Terry, might even prefer to play Mikel there too.

I reckon Cole would be the only Chelsea player to get in Barca's 'starting XI' but Mata would probably end up starting the majority of their games and I'd love to see how they played with Drogba up top.
 
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Pothas

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Luiz would be the obvious choice really, would help if he had half a brain of course. Think there were even some ridiculous rumours that Barcelona were interested in him.
 
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Tom Halsey

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TT Boy said:
Having a central midfielder with no pace and no goal scoring ability play out wide in a front three isn’t the brightest of ideas. I know he is a local boy and all but Cesc is superfluous. Pedro is average but he would have buried all the chances Cesc squandered yesterday.
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Fabregas has spent quite a lot of time there this season and by and large has done well.
 
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Seems an odd verdict to me. Can't see how one was cleared and the other not. Either both guilty or both not, surely?
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Yeah, I only glanced at this article myself, but that was my initial reaction as well. Ftr it sounds like they were both guilty beyond doubt, so it'd be interesting to hear how one of them has been totally absolved of any wrong doing.
 
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Haven't read anything on this other than what is in that link, but looking at that I suspect that the jury came to the conclusion that McDonald, who seems to have picked the girl up in the first place, reasonably believed that she had consented to have *** with him, but that Evans had no reasonable basis upon which to believe that she was consenting to whatever sort of spit roast arrangement he had in mind.
 
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