*Official* English Football Season 2010-11

[roseboy64]

You mean the loaning in players and getting parent clubs to pay for them?

BTW if you're calling this United side average then I guess that means Chelsea, Arsenal, City, Spurs and Liverpool are awful?

 

[Furball]

All of European football is average.

Barcelona excepted, I reckon pretty much any top club side around would lose heavily to the equivelant side from 10 years ago.

 

[GIMH]

You mean the loaning in players and getting parent clubs to pay for them?

BTW if you're calling this United side average then I guess that means Chelsea, Arsenal, City, Spurs and Liverpool are awful?

Given that it has not yet been conclusively proven that United are better than Chelsea (and indeed may well not be) then I don't really know why you'd say such a thing.

 

[roseboy64]

Considering Man Utd best Chelsea twice to reach the CL semis it's a fair assumption.

A team not being swashbuckling doesn't mean average. Could be that the other teams have gotten better while some of the top teams have declined a bit. Don't see how that equals average.

Quite clearly then Barcelona is the only good team yet they have a 2-2-1 record against Madrid.

 

[Furball]

Quite clearly then Barcelona is the only good team yet they have a 2-2-1 record against Madrid.

One of which was a 5-0 pumping that was the greatest performance I've ever seen from a club side.

Just stop posting about football, you post so much fail about the sport it's unbelievable.

 

[marc71178]

You mean the loaning in players and getting parent clubs to pay for them?

No I mean things like signing a lot of players on loan then claiming that they're broke so the PFA pays the wages for them.

 

[duffer]

If this Arsenal side had a collective pair between them all, they'd walk the league. They don't, so yeah.

 

[cpr]

BTW if you're calling this United side average then I guess that means Chelsea, Arsenal, City, Spurs and Liverpool are awful?

Not awful, but old/testicless/boring/mental/still reattaching the wheels, in that order.


To claim our performance over the season has been anything above average is using the old Roseboy tinted spectacles I'm afraid. I'm pleased so far we've pulled out results when it matters for the main part, but there has been so many performances that have plainly dissapointed to consider the team to have excelled this year. The fact no-one else has stepped up to the plate consistently either is saving us.

 

[roseboy64]

I'm not saying it's a great team just there can't be only one good team. Could it not be that other teams have improved so that the big clubs haven't able to simply dominate. Spurs and Chelsea reached the quarters of the CL and Man Utd the final while Arsenal got knocked out by eventual finalists Barcelona.

This Man Utd team beat Chelsea in both legs of the CL QF and beat Liverpool in the FA Cup and in that same competition beat Arsenal with a 2nd string outfit before going out to a string Man City team..

Based on calling Man Utd average then that means only Barcelona can be called a good team this season. Doesn't make sense really.The clubs I named before are not average. Madrid isn't average. You can say they've declined and that coupled with the improvements in the league standard has made it a much closer league. Earlier in the season Chelsea were cruising through games then their form dipped and now it's back. Doesn't mean they're average though.

Simply put average clubs don't win leagues. Can say they're lesser than previous versions of that team but to call them average is ridiculous. I'd definitely back the Man Utd team of a few years ago to beat this one only because the previous was better not because this team is woeful.

Re: the 5-0, in the rest of the games between the two teams it's been a much more even contest right? One could then say it's an anomaly, but that could be countered with the fact Barca have been less dominant over teams in the second half of this season. Madrid were rightly outclassed then as they got their tactics wrong and Barca made them pay. In the next games Madrid were better prepared and they were much closer affairs.

 

[roseboy64]

No I mean things like signing a lot of players on loan then claiming that they're broke so the PFA pays the wages for them.

Which ones were those? Not paid particular attention but from what Cardiff fans have said their new owners have cleared up and are clearing up debts.

 

[cpr]

I'm not saying it's a great team just there can't be only one good team. Could it not be that other teams have improved so that the big clubs haven't able to simply dominate. Spurs and Chelsea reached the quarters of the CL and Man Utd the final while Arsenal got knocked out by eventual finalists Barcelona.

No, the other teams havent improved. Wolves are still awful, so are Wigan, Blackburn, West Ham, Sunderlands end of year burn out, Villa extended end of season burnout (started in August this year).

So Spurs reached the CL Quarters, they are still average, its the mean of a few star games and some really poor ones, a team that prefers 11-10 to 1-0, no defence and a keeper with spaz hands.

Chelsea started strong, finishing strong, and AWOL in between, thats average.

Arsenal have been the best team for me, but like Spurs, balance attacking threat with defensive self harm.

We've meandered through a season dragging it upto 3rd gear for 45 minutes here and there.

This Man Utd team beat Chelsea in both legs of the CL QF and beat Liverpool in the FA Cup and in that same competition beat Arsenal with a 2nd string outfit before going out to a string Man City team..

Based on calling Man Utd average then that means only Barcelona can be called a good team this season. Doesn't make sense really

It does, because they have been the only good team this year.

We failed to rock upto what the fans saw as the most important game around, the FA Cup Semi against City. we've paddled through with bits of luck and the odd head turning performance, and decent opposition have kindly shown up on wilted on occasion (Schalke twice, Arsenal at OT... most teams at OT infact).

Chelsea were cruising through games then their form dipped and now it's back. Doesn't mean they're average though.

It does, because on average, they've performed average, or wildly inconsistent enough not to have had a good season.

Simply put average clubs don't win leagues.

They will this year, because no club has performed to a good standard accross the season. United have ****ed up the least, especially at home, but many a 3 points have come from a game the fans have left shaking their heads at. Any fan of the top 3 will come away wondering why their team didn't just perform, as they'd have walked the league if they did.

 

[vcs]

It's seasons like these that show the difference between Ferguson and the rest of the managers.

 

[marc71178]

Which ones were those? Not paid particular attention but from what Cardiff fans have said their new owners have cleared up and are clearing up debts.

This goes back years (and helped them avoid relegation whilst they were at it) and fans can say what they like about the owners - it doesn't mean it's true.

Oh and for the record every team this year is IMO mediocre, even UEFA's darlings at the Nou Camp. Been one of the worst year's in terms of quality I can remember.

 

[Furball]

Re: the 5-0, in the rest of the games between the two teams it's been a much more even contest right? One could then say it's an anomaly, but that could be countered with the fact Barca have been less dominant over teams in the second half of this season. Madrid were rightly outclassed then as they got their tactics wrong and Barca made them pay. In the next games Madrid were better prepared and they were much closer affairs.

Nope.

Clasico 1: Barcelona needed to not lose to pretty much guarantee La Liga, as soon as they went 1-0 they clicked into 1st gear.
Copa de Rey final - all Barcelona in the 2nd half, Casillas kept them in the game, Real pinch a goal in ET.
First leg - Real got owned
Haven't seen the second leg but from the highlights I've seen it looks similar to the first clasico - Barcelona in control, score, take foot off pedal as job is done.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Schalke can't be called decent opposition. 10th in the German league ffs, worst semi-finalist since 1982.

 

[Ikki]

It's seasons like these that show the difference between Ferguson and the rest of the managers.

Agree 100%. How the F does he do it?

 

[Nate]

It hurt my insides, but I voted Ferguson above Dalglish as Manager of the Season on some poll yesterday. He's so good.

 

[GIMH]

Considering Man Utd best Chelsea twice to reach the CL semis it's a fair assumption.

A team not being swashbuckling doesn't mean average. Could be that the other teams have gotten better while some of the top teams have declined a bit. Don't see how that equals average.

Quite clearly then Barcelona is the only good team yet they have a 2-2-1 record against Madrid.

And Chelsea beat United in the league didn't they? (Could be mistaken)

I'm a firm believer that a match between two teams doesn't tell us who the better side is, but the league table after 38 games does. So let's wait and see...

 

[Uppercut]

I'm not saying it's a great team just there can't be only one good team.

Why can't there be only one good team? Is it written into the rules somewhere?

It depends how high you set the standard for "good", but Barca are really obviously in a league of their own.

 

[roseboy64]

This goes back years (and helped them avoid relegation whilst they were at it) and fans can say what they like about the owners - it doesn't mean it's true.

Oh and for the record every team this year is IMO mediocre, even UEFA's darlings at the Nou Camp. Been one of the worst year's in terms of quality I can remember.

I'll agree with this last statement. Makes the most sense.