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*Official* English Football Season 2006-07

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Just realised that with yer Toffees & yer Trotters both failing to win we've qualified for the Champions League. Or the qualifying stages thereof. Woo-hoo. :p

Hard to get too enthused tbh.
 

Craig

World Traveller
Just realised that with yer Toffees & yer Trotters both failing to win we've qualified for the Champions League. Or the qualifying stages thereof. Woo-hoo. :p

Hard to get too enthused tbh.
Something I've been meaning to ask, is there any truth in the rumours about American businessmen putting in takeover bids?
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Something I've been meaning to ask, is there any truth in the rumours about American businessmen putting in takeover bids?
Well he's bought up over 12% of the stock & if Dein sells his remaining shares to him (about 16% I read) he'd be worryingly close to having the required 30% to mount a hostile takeover.

I'm keeping an open mind tbh; we have a French manager, play in a stadium named after an Arab airline & have about two dozen different nationalities on our playing staff so our track record with foreigners isn't too bad!
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Well he's bought up over 12% of the stock & if Dein sells his remaining shares to him (about 16% I read) he'd be worryingly close to having the required 30% to mount a hostile takeover.

I'm keeping an open mind tbh; we have a French manager, play in a stadium named after an Arab airline & have about two dozen different nationalities on our playing staff so our track record with foreigners isn't too bad!
Except all of those foreigners are evil, obviously...
 

Craig

World Traveller
Well he's bought up over 12% of the stock & if Dein sells his remaining shares to him (about 16% I read) he'd be worryingly close to having the required 30% to mount a hostile takeover.

I'm keeping an open mind tbh; we have a French manager, play in a stadium named after an Arab airline & have about two dozen different nationalities on our playing staff so our track record with foreigners isn't too bad!
However seeing the amount of money, I guess he would be able to over Wenger a bit of spending money, something he hasn't always had compared to SAF.
 

Loony BoB

International Captain
SAF hasn't had it all the time. Last transfer window we were the only club to make a net profit on transfers...
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
He did have it at the crucial time though, at the start of the period of success.

As a contrast I believe you'll find that over his Arsenal career, Wenger is showing a healthy profit on transfers, and is thus generating his own funds rather than a global marketing arm...
 

roseboy64

Cricket Web Content Updater
You can't blame Ferguson that his club actually wanted to make money. Pretty sure Man Utd weren't big globally before the 90s. It's not just the success but good marketing. Arsenal had success as well but didn't promote well. Bad business plan but United did have more money at the beginning which was used well.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
You can't blame Ferguson that his club actually wanted to make money. Pretty sure Man Utd weren't big globally before the 90s. It's not just the success but good marketing. Arsenal had success as well but didn't promote well. Bad business plan but United did have more money at the beginning which was used well.
You'd be wrong. Obviously the Premiership has raised the profile of every English team exponentially, but ManUre have always had a popularity in advance of every other English team, apart from perhaps Liverpool in the late 70s-early 90s when they won almost literally everything. & this despite not winning the title for 25 years.

In terms of brand recognition Arsenal just can't compete.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Would like to know when that was, and who the other winger was in these games...
In a CL group game (can't remember the team) Rooney played out the left, Laarson in the centre & Ronaldo on the right for the 1st half then Laarson was substituted for the second half & Giggs came on.
 

roseboy64

Cricket Web Content Updater
You'd be wrong. Obviously the Premiership has raised the profile of every English team exponentially, but ManUre have always had a popularity in advance of every other English team, apart from perhaps Liverpool in the late 70s-early 90s when they won almost literally everything. & this despite not winning the title for 25 years.

In terms of brand recognition Arsenal just can't compete.
I'm just basing that idea on the fact that Liverpool were the dominant team before Man Utd. I know that Utd still had heaps of support but it'd be safe to assume that Liverpool would have been the biggest English team globally at that time with Man Utd near and Arsenal not too far behind. Everton and Newcastle too if I'm right.
 

Matteh

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Man Utd had won a European Cup though, always going to be pretty high on the club reputation stakes after that.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Man Utd had won a European Cup though, always going to be pretty high on the club reputation stakes after that.
Even before that. It all really dates back to Munich. There was an (understandable) wave of public sympathy after that. IMHO it was the event which pushed them from being a big club to the big club.
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
Even before that. It all really dates back to Munich. There was an (understandable) wave of public sympathy after that. IMHO it was the event which pushed them from being a big club to the big club.
Yeah, hit the nail on the head there.

Anyway, the point still stands that for the most part, Ferguson has had to sell before he can buy, and arguably the two biggest cornerstones to the start of our run of success (Cantona and Schmeichel) were both absolute bargains.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
That makes 2 superb performances by Beckham since his return from injury. Supplying a superb cross for RVN & overall a tireless performances on the pitch.

Lets go Becks..
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
In a CL group game (can't remember the team) Rooney played out the left, Laarson in the centre & Ronaldo on the right for the 1st half then Laarson was substituted for the second half & Giggs came on.
Let me guess when he started to look good then...
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Anyway, the point still stands that for the most part, Ferguson has had to sell before he can buy
Absolute rubbish has he had to.

He never sold before buying the likes of Pallister, Keane etc.

Those were far from cheap signings and they were the catalyst from which everything else snowballed.

It's only since Glazer came in that he's actually had any real constraints, and interestingly he's won nothing of note since then to date.
 

Loony BoB

International Captain
Absolute rubbish has he had to.

He never sold before buying the likes of Pallister, Keane etc.

Those were far from cheap signings and they were the catalyst from which everything else snowballed.

It's only since Glazer came in that he's actually had any real constraints, and interestingly he's won nothing of note since then to date.
I would say that has more to do with Chelsea than it does Glazer.
 

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