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***Official*** English Domestic Season 2014

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
No doubt there'll be general delight that Surrey's season continues to plumb new depths. Just as well we only needed 19 to avoid the follow-on. Fuller doing most of the damage, is he a genuine quick as per his profile?
Not sure, think the Kiwi's have seen more of him.

Anyway your second-string seamers seem better than your first lot really. Smith has been the disaster of the season though surely?
 

BackFootPunch

International 12th Man
No doubt there'll be general delight that Surrey's season continues to plumb new depths. Just as well we only needed 19 to avoid the follow-on. Fuller doing most of the damage, is he a genuine quick as per his profile?
Depends what you mean by genuine quick. He's certainly not up near 150km (or at least wasn't in the last couple of T20 seasons here) but he'd be high 130s or early 140s I reckon. Seems to bowl quite a heavy ball too.
 

Howsie

Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah. When he was playing for Otago a couple of seasons ago he was constantly up around that 140-145 range, looked a million bucks. Played a few first class game too and dominated. Didn't look as flash this summer for Auckland, pace was down and certainly didn't look like the bowler he was the summer beforehand.

His numbers don't do his talent justice, with bat or ball.
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Glowing reports about Bates today, really hope he stays in the side when Wheater is fit again.
 

King Pietersen

International Captain
Tremlett going well. 4/23 off 9 overs. Big change from his form earlier in the season, had taken 1/150 before today.

Another 50 for Robson too, before getting run out. Morgan's now batting, 27 off 49 atm. Hopefully he'll give away another start again.
 

stumpski

International Captain
Five now for Tremlett, and Dunn nipped in with one just before tea - his progress is being watched with interest. Certainly he's done well enough so far to justify playing ahead of Dernbach. The average age of the side has certainly dropped with Ansari keeping Batty out and Solanki not available at present due to a family illness.
 

fredfertang

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
The fact that our bowlers can only take one wicket all day worries me more than the regular batting collapses
 

stumpski

International Captain
They were very unlucky to catch all that rain at Hove - been dry all day here in mid Kent. Forecast for the South East not that great tomorrow either, Surrey's chase of 257 could be disrupted.

James Vince is the first in the country to 500 runs as far as I can tell.
 

Howe_zat

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Ian Bell being a class above county players as usual.

King Cricket last month said:
There will come a point – probably at some point in July – when Ian Bell will have made a couple of ducks against India and generally looked a bit uncertain. People will start to suggest he should be dropped, saying that he could be replaced by [insert name of form batsman] because he’s averaging 48.12 in the County Championship this season and therefore deserves to play.

No, he doesn’t. Whoever he is, he doesn’t. Ian Bell deserves to play.

Because while Bell will have spent the summer playing Test cricket, unnamed batsman will have been playing county cricket AND THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING.

Everyone will have forgotten that when they were playing the same game, Ian Bell was showing that he was a class apart, hitting his second hundred of the season in a match where his side were bowled out for 263 before reducing the opposition to 43-6.
And he's just casually top scoring by a mile again.
 

Woodster

International Captain
Ian Bell for me is comfortably the best batsman in the country and while his place like everyone else's should always be under pressure if he doesn't perform, he should by and large be a certainty for England for years to come and should be batting at number three.
 

Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
Ian Bell for me is comfortably the best batsman in the country and while his place like everyone else's should always be under pressure if he doesn't perform, he should by and large be a certainty for England for years to come and should be batting at number three.
Agree with that.......apart from maybe the last part. I've got no doubt Bell could bat 3, but as far as I'm concerned the best bat in the country can bat wherever he wants or feels most comfortable/confident.

Same debate has been going on with M Clarke for too long........I just don't buy into "your best batsmen has to bat at 3" theory at all.
 

Woodster

International Captain
Agree with that.......apart from maybe the last part. I've got no doubt Bell could bat 3, but as far as I'm concerned the best bat in the country can bat wherever he wants or feels most comfortable/confident.

Same debate has been going on with M Clarke for too long........I just don't buy into "your best batsmen has to bat at 3" theory at all.
Yes that's fair enough, and if Bell does have an issue with going in at first drop then I'd be reluctant to force him to bat there. However, I was under the impression this was the spot he wanted to nail down, even when Trott was secure in that position Bell still had an insistence he had some unfinished business there, or so I thought.

I think the struggles we've had in this position prior to Trott coming to the fore and since he has left the side shows that we need a reliable and consistent performer in this slot, too much to ask of a novice and Bell has the ideal game to bat there providing, as you say, he doesn't have any hang-ups in batting there.
 

Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah for sure, if he wants it....let him go for it, I'd certainly be happy to see him bat there. But if like Clarke for whatever reason he isn't keen then he certainly shouldn't feel like he "should" move up.

Not on here but I've seen way too much flak given to players like Clarke who prefer to bat down the order, even casting doubts over his ticker because of it. If Belly continues to shine and stays at 4 or 5 eventually some of that flak is gonna come his way.
 

flibbertyjibber

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Vaughan tweeting that Plunkett should and will play for England this summer.

God knows if he will but he has certainly started the season well.
 

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