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***Official*** English Domestic Season 2008

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morgieb

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Richard said:
Well - I can't if Ramprakash keeps going, Butcher regains fitness and plays the whole season, Jewell and Meaker turn-out to be the next Bicknell and Benjamin, Saqlain recaptures his former glories, and Schofield is released and Salisbury returns in a blaze of glory with both sides expressing their regret that the partnership was prematurely terminated.

Admittedly, that's a fairly big if though.
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Ind33d. Salisbury often fails in Divison 1, but is lethal in Division 2. Schofield, well what a change since he was labeled as "the next Warne" 8-)
 
FBU

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Ravi Bopara won Cricket Writers' Club Young Cricketer of the Year.

Previous winners

1989 Nasser Hussain 96 Tests (45 as captain), 88 ODIs (56 as captain)
1990 Michael Atherton 115 Tests (54 as captain), 54 ODIs (43 as captain)
1991 Mark Ramprakash 52 Tests, 18 ODIs
1992 Ian Salisbury 15 Tests, 4 ODIs
1993 Mark Lathwell 2 Tests
1994 John Crawley 37 Tests, 13 ODIs
1995 Andrew Symonds 22 Tests, 193 ODIs for Australia
1996 Chris Silverwood 6 Tests, 7 ODIs
1997 Ben Hollioake 2 Tests, 20 ODIs
1998 Andrew Flintoff 70*Tests (11 as captain), 133 ODIs (14 as captain)
1999 Alex Tudor 10 Tests, 3 ODIs
2000 Paul Franks 1 ODI
2001 Owais Shah 2* Tests, 47* ODIs
2002 Rikki Clarke 2 Tests, 20 ODIs
2003 James Anderson 29* Tests, 97* ODIs
2004 Ian Bell 43* Tests, 75* ODIs
2005 Alastair Cook 34* Tests, 22* ODIs
2006 Stuart Broad 9* Tests, 37* ODIs
2007 Adil Rashid
2008 Ravi Bopara 3* Tests 28* ODIs
 
SpaceMonkey

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Since 2003 we've had some pretty good young players come through. Who actually seem to make the step up to international cricket much easier than those that came before them. I wonder if you could claim the new academy system had any influence on things like that.

Mark Lathwell was a massive let down, showed real promise and then just completely dropped off the radar. Paul Franks too :( Although probably the biggest let down of all was Alex Tudor. I dont think i've seen an English bowler with more potential. Injury/stamina problems just never let him fill that potential.
 
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Richard

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FBU said:
Ravi Bopara won Cricket Writers' Club Young Cricketer of the Year.

Previous winners

1989 Nasser Hussain 96 Tests (45 as captain), 88 ODIs (56 as captain)
1990 Michael Atherton 115 Tests (54 as captain), 54 ODIs (43 as captain)
1991 Mark Ramprakash 52 Tests, 18 ODIs
1992 Ian Salisbury 15 Tests, 4 ODIs
1993 Mark Lathwell 2 Tests
1994 John Crawley 37 Tests, 13 ODIs
1995 Andrew Symonds 22 Tests, 193 ODIs for Australia
1996 Chris Silverwood 6 Tests, 7 ODIs
1997 Ben Hollioake 2 Tests, 20 ODIs
1998 Andrew Flintoff 70*Tests (11 as captain), 133 ODIs (14 as captain)
1999 Alex Tudor 10 Tests, 3 ODIs
2000 Paul Franks 1 ODI
2001 Owais Shah 2* Tests, 47* ODIs
2002 Rikki Clarke 2 Tests, 20 ODIs
2003 James Anderson 29* Tests, 97* ODIs
2004 Ian Bell 43* Tests, 75* ODIs
2005 Alastair Cook 34* Tests, 22* ODIs
2006 Stuart Broad 9* Tests, 37* ODIs
2007 Adil Rashid
2008 Ravi Bopara 3* Tests 28* ODIs
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Still think it's kinda ridiculous that someone wins "young" player of the year who started playing First-Class cricket 6 years ago, and that 4 of the 5 winners in between then started after him.

Bell winning it in 2004 was pretty ridiculous too.
 
Richard

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SpaceMonkey said:
Since 2003 we've had some pretty good young players come through. Who actually seem to make the step up to international cricket much easier than those that came before them. I wonder if you could claim the new academy system had any influence on things like that.
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Hmm. I'm really not sure about that TBH. In 1989 and 1990 we had Hussain and Atherton; in 1998 Flintoff; and in 2004 and 2005 Bell and Cook. That's basically it (and still Bell is yet to truly convince). I don't see any pattern there myself.

Anderson, Broad and Bopara are still wholly in the yet-to-convince category, and Rashid hasn't even played yet (and a damn good thing too).
 
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Richard said:
Hmm. I'm really not sure about that TBH. In 1989 and 1990 we had Hussain and Atherton; in 1998 Flintoff; and in 2004 and 2005 Bell and Cook. That's basically it (and still Bell is yet to truly convince). I don't see any pattern there myself.

Anderson, Broad and Bopara are still wholly in the yet-to-convince category, and Rashid hasn't even played yet (and a damn good thing too).
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Anderson's gone some way to convincing me this summer, though. If you remember, before SA came i was firmly in the "Jimmy throws pies" camp. Now i'm thinking he looks a real bowler.
 
Richard

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He's certainly getting somewhere in Tests, but he's as hopeless as ever in ODIs. Broad is the other way around, though I've thought for quite a while that he has more potential than Anderson - taller and more naturally accurate.
 
bryce

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Richard said:
Still think it's kinda ridiculous that someone wins "young" player of the year who started playing First-Class cricket 6 years ago, and that 4 of the 5 winners in between then started after him.

Bell winning it in 2004 was pretty ridiculous too.
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Ha, so true. I'm picking Samit Patel for next year
 
fredfertang

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Tresco seems to believe that Lathwell was the greatest talent he ever saw but says he didn't like playing for England and that then Dermot the ****head tried to change his technique and that was the end of that and he just fell out of love with the game
 
Richard

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Certainly Lathwell's falling out-of-love with the game was famed. A sad case. I've often wondered whether he'd have turned-out good enough, not remembering his glory days as I don't.
 
Rickripper

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Great win for Sussex and Sami and goodwin finishes it in great style.

Sami clearly brought in as a batting all-rounder by Sussex.

Thought they were dead and buried when, as epic mentioned, the two English:-O spinners put on that mid-innings strangle.
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That was one of the best one-day games I've ever seen, right up there with Sri Lanka vs West Indies, and Chanderpaul's 10 from 2.
 
FBU

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You wonder why Surrey let Murtagh go and went for Pedro Collins. Murtagh has six more wickets today making it 61 so far this season.
 
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