*Official* England in West Indies

[Neil Pickup]

Vaughan misses out. Bell retained. Rashid in Test squad. Sidebottom retained.

Ambrose out of ODI squad for Davies - hope he opens. Mascarenhas back.

 

[wpdavid]

I don't think Vaughan will make the cut

And you were right.

Rashid's in, as well as Swann & Panesar. Because the WI has always been a spinners' paradise, presumably.

 

[Jigga988]

fair enough squad, I wouldn't have minded seeing Vaughan in there just so he could be given a chance to play Ashes if he did well, but never the less the squad is what was expected.

Anyone know if Sidebottom will be fit?

 

[Penguinissimo]

Because the WI has always been a spinners' paradise, presumably.

Or alternatively to cover up the fact that (if you accept the line that Vaughan needs low-key match practice before being considered again) there are only 7 specialist batsmen in England in contention for the Test team. I thought Bopara would get a place if Vaughan didn't.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Rashid in Test squad.

*punt*

Sidebottom retained.

Fit, then?

Ambrose out of ODI squad for Davies - hope he opens.

? Bitten the Gilchrist-craze?

Mascarenhas back.

Not bad.

 

[GIMH]

Three spinners, LOL

Is Prior going to lose his one-day place?

Will Bell start?

So many questions. Can't find a full squad list, can anyone help

 

[wpdavid]

Test squad

Andrew Strauss, Alastair Cook, Ian Bell, Kevin Pietersen (capt), Paul Collingwood, Owais Shah, Andrew Flintoff, Matt Prior (wk), Tim Ambrose (wk), Graeme Swann, Stuart Broad, Steve Harmison, James Anderson, Ryan Sidebottom, Monty Panesar, Adil Rashid

 

[Lillian Thomson]

So many questions. Can't find a full squad list, can anyone help

England Test squad for tour to West Indies: Kevin Pietersen (Hampshire, capt), Tim Ambrose (Warwickshire), James Anderson (Lancashire), Ian Bell (Warwickshire), Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire), Paul Collingwood (Durham), Alastair Cook (Essex), Andrew Flintoff (Lancashire), Steve Harmison (Durham), Monty Panesar (Northamptonshire), Matt Prior (Sussex), Adil Rashid (Yorkshire), Owais Shah (Middlesex), Ryan Sidebottom (Nottinghamshire), Andrew Strauss (Middlesex), Graeme Swann (Nottinghamshire).

England one-day squad for tour to West Indies: Kevin Pietersen (Hampshire, capt), James Anderson (Lancashire), Ian Bell (Warwickshire), Ravi Bopara (Essex), Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire), Paul Collingwood (Durham), Steven Davies (Worcestershire), Andrew Flintoff (Lancashire), Steve Harmison (Durham), Dimitri Mascarenhas (Hampshire), Samit Patel (Nottinghamshire), Matt Prior (Sussex), Owais Shah (Middlesex), Graeme Swann (Nottinghamshire), Ryan Sidebottom (Nottinghamshire).

England Lions squad to tour New Zealand: Robert Key (Kent, capt), Gareth Batty (Worcestershire), Ravi Bopara (Essex), Mark Davies (Durham), Steven Davies (Worcestershire)*, Joe Denly (Kent), Amjad Khan (Kent), Sajid Mahmood (Lancashire), Stephen Moore (Worcestershire), Eoin Morgan (Middlesex), Samit Patel (Nottinghamshire), Liam Plunkett (Durham), Jonathan Trott (Warwickshire), Luke Wright (Sussex).

* Tim Ambrose will replace Stephen Davies in the Lions squad after the Test series in the West Indies.

 

[Jigga988]

I am interested to see what the bowling line up will be providing Sidebottom is fit. It will be especially interesting if 2 spinners are used.

 

[Penguinissimo]

Vaughan misses out. Bell retained. Rashid in Test squad. Sidebottom retained.

Ambrose out of ODI squad for Davies - hope he opens. Mascarenhas back.

I personally wanted to see Vaughan in the squad, but I am and have always been very pro-MPV and am perfectly capable of admitting I am biased in his favour.

It is stating the obvious to say that Bell has only retained his place due to lack of credible alternatives.

Rashid is never going to play, since it'll be one spinner per game and a straight fight between Swann and Monty for that spot. Why not send him with the Lions to actually get some bowling?

I'm pleased to see the selectors persisting with Sidey, and I assume (although optimistically, given their previous record with things like this) that there is some good news on his fitness.

How Luke Wright ever got in the team ahead of Mascarenhas was baffling, so that is definitely the right pick.

Interesting to see them start to work with Steven Davies. I think it's a good move, but presumably is the final nail in the coffin for James Foster - a real shame.

 

[wpdavid]

I am interested to see what the bowling line up will be providing Sidebottom is fit. It will be especially interesting if 2 spinners are used.

Starting XI should be:
Strauss, Cook, Bell/Shah, KP, Collingwood, Fred, Prior, Broad, Swann/Panesar, Sidebottom, Anderson & Harmison

Can't see the sense in picking Rashid at all.

 

[GIMH]

I personally wanted to see Vaughan in the squad, but I am and have always been very pro-MPV and am perfectly capable of admitting I am biased in his favour.

It is stating the obvious to say that Bell has only retained his place due to lack of credible alternatives.

Rashid is never going to play, since it'll be one spinner per game and a straight fight between Swann and Monty for that spot. Why not send him with the Lions to actually get some bowling?

I'm pleased to see the selectors persisting with Sidey, and I assume (although optimistically, given their previous record with things like this) that there is some good news on his fitness.

How Luke Wright ever got in the team ahead of Mascarenhas was baffling, so that is definitely the right pick.

Interesting to see them start to work with Steven Davies. I think it's a good move, but presumably is the final nail in the coffin for James Foster - a real shame.

Okay, thanks guys

Test XI, my current prediction

Strauss
Cook
Shah
Pietersen
Collingwood
Flintoff
Prior
Swann/Broad
Sidebottom
Harmison/Panesar
Anderson

If Monty plays then Harmy doesn't IMO, and if Swann plays Broad doesn't. But I've been wrong before

 

[Neil Pickup]

Test Squad
Cook
Strauss
Bell
Pietersen
Collingwood
Shah

Flintoff
Rashid

Prior
Ambrose

Broad
Sidebottom
Harmison
Anderson

Swann
Panesar

ODI Squad
Bell
Pietersen
Collingwood
Shah
Bopara
Patel

Mascarenhas
Flintoff

Prior
Davies

Broad
Sidebottom
Harmison
Anderson

Swann

 

[Neil Pickup]

Is it me or did we just not bother to pick any openers in the ODI squad?

 

[PhoenixFire]

Get Broad and Anderson opening the batting IMO.

 

[Penguinissimo]

Is it me or did we just not bother to pick any openers in the ODI squad?

You mean you don't classify Bell or Bopara as openers? Shame on you.

 

[wpdavid]

Is it me or did we just not bother to pick any openers in the ODI squad?

Pick 2 from Bell, Bopara & Davies, I suppose.
I know what you mean, but I couldn't name a county opener who deserves to be in the squad.

 

[GIMH]

Possible ODI XI

Davies
Bell
Pietersen
Shah
Flintoff
Collingwood
Mascarenhas
Swann
Broad
Sidebottom
Anderson

 

[susudear]

Good call

Vaughan's exclusion deserves commendation.

Harmison to take a bucketload of cheap wickets and reserve his spot till another mood swing.

Good to see faith reposed in Panesar.

And glad to see Mascrenhas back. His exclusion was puzzling for the Indian tour.

Bell deserved the sack, however the selectors have seen the long term utility in him and retained.

Overall reasonable well packed squad to deal with a much weaker opposition.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Pick 2 from Bell, Bopara & Davies, I suppose.
I know what you mean, but I couldn't name a county opener who deserves to be in the squad.

Denly or Key? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let that be Davies and Bopara. Quite like the look of Corrin's XI if he changes the openers, possibly with Sammy Patel coming in for Sidebottom or Mascarenhas.

Davies
Bopara
Pietersen
Shah
Flintoff
Collingwood
Patel
Mascarenhas
Swann
Broad
Anderson