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*Official* England in South Africa

jboss

Banned
Lol at Dumminy. As I said before the series he should not be in test dream and as I said his average was inflated due to one big knock.
 

zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
Are you referring to the Amla caught behind?

I'm not sure how you could call the third umpire's decision not to overrule a shocker. That's incredibly harsh.
Yes I do mean that decision. I just don't know what more evidence the umpire could possibly need. There was the sound of the clearest of nicks which came at precisely the same split second that the ball passed the bat, and there was no other apparent explanation for the noise. If I'm being harsh in my assessment, I'm open to correction. So tell me: what else could realistically have caused that sound at precisely that moment? And if there's no other explanation then how was the decision anything other than a shocker?
 

zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
Lol at Dumminy. As I said before the series he should not be in test dream and as I said his average was inflated due to one big knock.
Lol at you for constantly knocking Boucher too. He's been South Africa's only consistent batsman in the series and you're so against him playing that you've said you won't support your own team until he's axed.
 

Manee

Cricketer Of The Year
I really hope that this is a close contest (ie, England don't score 450+) as I would not want this excellent partnership and this excellent contest between bat and ball to sink into obscurity in the context of the match.
 

Rant0r

International 12th Man
Was it really because of that incident that he had to wait nearly eight years for another chance, or was he just not good enough earlier in his career? I mean, we picked some shoddy spinners in the interim, particularly in ODIs
Fletcher had some pretty strong preconceived ideas about players, sometimes it worked in the teams favour, but when it doesn't...
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
It's called being out of form. Happens to everyone.
Yeah I agree. You pick your best players and let tem ride though bad form.

Lol at Dumminy. As I said before the series he should not be in test dream and as I said his average was inflated due to one big knock.
Without that one knock his average is currently 22.77. It does inflate the average. I still think he deserves his place and should work through any issues and this bad run of form but if someone doesnt think he is the right guy then the form supports that. I may disagre with you but you are (so far) accurate on this.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Yes I do mean that decision. I just don't know what more evidence the umpire could possibly need. There was the sound of the clearest of nicks which came at precisely the same split second that the ball passed the bat, and there was no other apparent explanation for the noise. If I'm being harsh in my assessment, I'm open to correction. So tell me: what else could realistically have caused that sound at precisely that moment? And if there's no other explanation then how was the decision anything other than a shocker?
Was the sound that loud? I actually didn't hear it live.

And the replay showed no deviation at all. If the on field umpire had ruled it out, the third umpire would have upheld it. As the on field umpire ruled it not out, that decision was upheld.

Rather than 'a shocker', I reckon its the ICC not forking out for snicko and hot spot that is the problem.
 
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GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Was the sound that loud? I actually didn't hear it live.

And the replay showed no deviation at all. If the on field umpire had ruled it out, the third umpire would have upheld it. As the on field umpire ruled it not out, that decision was upheld.

Rather than 'a shocker', I reckon its the ICC not forking out for snicko and hot spot that is the problem.
Agree with this. I wasn't even sure the Boucher one on Monday was going to be given out in referral.
 

zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
Lol at Dumminy. As I said before the series he should not be in test team and as I said his average was inflated due to one big knock.
That'll be a different JP you picked to bat at 5 then...

Wow another hundred for Elgar today he really should play in the 1st test. Has scored 4 centuries this sseason already. Whats more is he is an opener and has age on his side. Perhaps SA line up should be.

1)Smith
2)Elgar
3)Amla
4)AB(w/K
5)JP
6)Prince
7)Mclaren/Albie
8)Morne
9Harris
10)Parnell
11)Steyn
 

zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
Was the sound that loud? I actually didn't hear it live.

And the replay showed no deviation at all. If the on field umpire had ruled it out, the third umpire would have upheld it. As the on field umpire ruled it not out, that decision was upheld.

Rather than 'a shocker', I reckon its the ICC not forking out for snicko and hot spot that is the problem.
It was a thin nick and so it wasn't loud, but it was clear.

And being a thin nick there would have been no discernible deviation at all. The lack of deviation neither proves nor disproves anything. This is a decision where the only evidence available is the sound. And the sound should have been easily enough.

As for snicko etc, I don't disagree with you, but all that snicko does is to show sound graphically. In this case the nick, and the hardness of it, was absolutely crystal clear.
 

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