There is no all arounder good enough in first class cricket. So besides asking mister kallis very very nicely to come and play test cricket again they will have to stick with this till they find someone good enough to bat in the top 7 and bowl.
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***Official*** England in South Africa 2015/16
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AndyZaltzHair
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Not sure about Faf getting the axe right now. Yes he is horribly out of sorts but would want him getting more time for at least the full series
He is averaging 18 for the year. How much does he deserve? Van zyl also 18 and duminy 10, that's where the problem lies.
When Steyn/Morkel/Philander are fit could SA look to do a sort of England thing and pick two batting all rounders (one of whom is a spinner) to give them those 3 front liners and two decent options? Elgar is a reasonable arm turner but he isn't a wicket taker imo. Are there any players who fit that description?
AndyZaltzHair
Hall of Fame Member
I believe he will come good but no.5 does not suit him
Furball
Evil Scotsman
If he doesn't you could pick 4 seamers and move Moeen to 6.
Are we that much more confident in Moeen?
Lillian Thomson
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There is no chance of Stokes averaging 40 over a long period. The snag is that Bairstow, Stokes and Ali are all number 7's.
LegionOfBrad
International Debutant
Bairstow is the likeliest to make it as a top order bat imo. He won't be the long term keeper though. Buttler will be back at some point as they're desparate to have him in the team.
flibbertyjibber
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Probably right but Buttler needed dropping and will hopefully come back better for it. May be a year before he plays a test again if Bairstow takes his chance but nobody would moan if Bairstow became a top 6 player and Buttler came back in with the gloves. We just want a good side regardless of who the 11 players on the field are.
Johann
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Bairstow has never shown he has the game to prosper as a genuine top 6 bat in test cricket - far too many gaps in his technique for me
Buttler is a much better keeper and way more potential with the bat too.
Agree that the issue we have is too many 7s and no genuine 6s in the squad. Stokes needs to be averaging at least 35 if he's going to bat 6
Buttler is a much better keeper and way more potential with the bat too.
Agree that the issue we have is too many 7s and no genuine 6s in the squad. Stokes needs to be averaging at least 35 if he's going to bat 6
TheJediBrah
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surely having 3 no.7s from 6-8 is fine.
Who cares if you're no. 6 isn't quite could enough, at least you have an awesome no. 8.
Australia have a no. 8 batting at 6 right now . . .
Who cares if you're no. 6 isn't quite could enough, at least you have an awesome no. 8.
Australia have a no. 8 batting at 6 right now . . .
LegionOfBrad
International Debutant
It works in our favour sometimes. But I think if we could have a 45+ average man there it would once in a while stop a collapse rather than having 3 dashers.
Johann
School Boy/Girl Captain
Probably a fair point about the technical issues - I just think Buttler has a ridiculous amount of natural ability that we need to make use of
Johann
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Yeah 45+ is asking quite a lot of a number 6. Especially when we don't have a number 2, 3 or 5 that average that
