***Official*** England in Pakistan

[onemangang]

I actually keep forgetting Kamran Akmal since I use Younis Khan as keeper in most PC games . So even if I take out Sami and replace him with Akmal, we still have 12 players. Whom to axe??

I would say Rana naveed

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Whom to axe??

Judging from the warmup matches, and being an England supporter, I'd say any half-decent bowler.

 

[marc71178]

me too, anyone else?

I'm away with work the week after next so thought I had a good chance of watching some in the hotel.

Unfortunately my stay seems to coincide with the gap between games

 

[marc71178]

Yeah. They'll be fools if they're not ****ting themselves at the prospect of Giles (no offence to him) and Udal bowling in tandem.

To be fair, if conditions suit then Giles will cause the Pakistani's problems.

 

[yohanna]

To be fair, if conditions suit then Giles will cause the Pakistani's problems.

He might end up as the highest wk taker for England in the series.

 

[social]

To be fair, if conditions suit then Giles will cause the Pakistani's problems.

True but I always find it a slightly ridiculous argument when I hear that Giles, whilst generally ordinary, is very good on spinning wickets.

For mine, it's like saying that a certain fast bowler is ordinary under "normal" conditions but excellent on a green-top. I mean, what fast bowler isnt?

The true test of anyone is how they perform when conditions are against them not when everything is in your favour.

 

[GladiatrsInBlue]

According to sources the likely Pak 11 would be like,

Malik
Butt
Younis
Inzi
Yousuf
Afridi
Akmal
Rana Naveed
Akhtar
Sami
Danish.

This seems to be a very attacking approach, going in with 6 bowlers (3 pacers and 3 spinners).

I would have like Hassan Raza play the match in place of Afridi, also i'm dead against Sami being in the team.Pak have plenty of pacers to replace Sami, but looks like he will play the first match.

 

[Woody_cloudofsm]

According to sources the likely Pak 11 would be like,

Malik
Butt
Younis
Inzi
Yousuf
Afridi
Akmal
Rana Naveed
Akhtar
Sami
Danish.

This seems to be a very attacking approach, going in with 6 bowlers (3 pacers and 3
spinners).

I would have like Hassan Raza play the match in place of Afridi, also i'm dead against Sami being in the team.Pak have plenty of pacers to replace Sami, but looks like he will play the first match.

pretty close to what looks good but i wrekon mushie should play insted of sami, they can succeed with rana naveed and akthar, maybe geez it would be good if razzaq wasnt injured, also umar gul has to be a dark horse to play, sami has a bowling average of 47 in tests he will leak runs hard

 

[honestbharani]

Younis Khan has confirmed (can't remember where now) that Malik is going to open the first test along with Salman Butt. I personally would love to see the following Pakistani line-up:

Salman Butt
Shoaib Malik
Younis Khan
Inzamam-ul-Haq
Mohammed Yousef
Asim Kamal
Shahid Afridi
Rana Naved-ul-Hasan
Mohammad Sami
Shoaib Akhtar
Danish Kaneria
Shabbir Ahmed

I don't know whom to leave out of this side. We need four pacers and two spinners, which is what we've got. You can't take out Afridi, since he's a decent spinner and we all know what he can and can't do with the bat. Malik needs to be given more chances in tests, same with Naved. Kaneria is irreplacable. The only one I can think of is Asim Kamal.

you have left out the keeper , or has YOunis gotten better at it?

 

[nehrafan]

sami has a bowling average of 47 in tests he will leak runs hard

Yeah but he still better than Rana who averages a record 76 with the ball in test matches

 

[Shoaib]

And following r the Pakistan line-ups that I would like to see:

Tests

Salman Butt
Shahid Yousuf
Younis Khan
Inzamam-Ul-Haq (C)
Hasan Raza
Asim Kamal
Kamran Akmal (WK)
Shoaib Akhtar
Shabir Ahmed
Umar Gul
Danish Kaneria

ODIs
Salman Butt
Saleem Elahi
Shoaib Malik
Inzamam-Ul-Haq (C)
Mohammad Yousuf
Hasan Raza
Abdul Razzaq
Kamran Akmal (WK)
Shoaib Akhtar
Shabbir Ahmed/Rana Naveed-Ul-Hassan
Umar Gul/Danish Kaneria

Super Sub:Shahid Afridi

 

[Woody_cloudofsm]

Yeah but he still better than Rana who averages a record 76 with the ball in test matches

after just a ahandful of tests not given a proper chance to prove himself

unlike sami

 

[Woody_cloudofsm]

And following r the Pakistan line-ups that I would like to see:

Tests

Salman Butt
Shahid Yousuf
Younis Khan
Inzamam-Ul-Haq (C)
Hasan Raza
Asim Kamal
Kamran Akmal (WK)
Shoaib Akhtar
Shabir Ahmed
Umar Gul
Danish Kaneria

ODIs
Salman Butt
Saleem Elahi
Shoaib Malik
Inzamam-Ul-Haq (C)
Mohammad Yousuf
Hasan Raza
Abdul Razzaq
Kamran Akmal (WK)
Shoaib Akhtar
Shabbir Ahmed/Rana Naveed-Ul-Hassan
Umar Gul/Danish Kaneria

thats absoloutely ridiculous shahid afridi doesnt feature in witehr line up and mohommed yousef isnt in the test setup

all those selections are poor

 

[Xuhaib]

I hope Razzaq stays unfit throughout the series and Yasir Arafat gets his deserved chance.I so much hate the dead bat stuff Razzaq produces in the test matches though he is gold in ODI's.

 

[Xuhaib]

3. Bell
4. KP
5. Collingwood

This the worst middle-order at the moment barring Bangas and Zims though there is the "BIG" Freddie Factor at 6.

 

[nightprowler10]

3. Bell
4. KP
5. Collingwood

You must be joking.....

 

[Xuhaib]

Originally Posted by nightpower10
You must be joking.....

I dont think KP is a proven commodity in the sub-continent yet and by the worst middle order statement i meant all 3 of them together. 1 decent out of 3 dosent make this middle-order looks very flashy.

 

[nightprowler10]

I dont think KP is a proven commodity in the sub-continent yet and by the worst middle order statement i meant all 3 of them together. 1 decent out of 3 dosent make this middle-order looks very flashy.

Still...definitely not the worst middle order.

 

[yohanna]

Still...definitely not the worst middle order.

No its certainly not the worst, but it doesn't look much solid either.

I don't think English middle order is great, its guys like Freddie and KP who comes in annd plays amazing knocks and pull England out of trouble.

 

[yohanna]

sami has a bowling average of 47 in tests he will leak runs hard

Sami is a one of the worst test bowler around, its a shame that ppl like Woolmer and Inzi, who knows so much about cricket still think Sami can deliver for Pakistan.