***Official*** England in Pakistan

[ClownSymonds]

And england are hated because they won the ashes huh?

They are hated for that and a variety of other reasons. Not just by Australians, either.

 

[supereddi08]

Well I'm a kiwi and quite fond of the poms myself... they'd be just behind the black cap boys as the ones I cheer on the most.

 

[ClownSymonds]

Where have the chuckers been cleared? And no blatant, deliberate and pre-meditated cheating is not cancelled out by claiming a catch that is inconclusive on the replays.

The chuckers were cleared at the University of Western Australia. The Bell catch was pretty much as clear of a case of cheating as the Afridi dance.

 

[Slow Love™]

Gatting and Shakoor Rana.

These new guys are *****cats when it comes to confrontation.

Oh, yeah. We saw similar hijinks out here over a decade later with Ranatunga and Ross Ermerson (who was never going to get an apology, like Rana did). In some ways it was worse, 'cause at one stage Ranatunga was physically shoving Emerson into the position he wanted him to stand in for Murali's deliveries.

 

[Pratters]

They are hated for that and a variety of other reasons. Not just by Australians, either.

Yeah like:

Poms have a quality all rounder while Australia just has Andrew Symonds
Poms have a M.Vaughan while Australia just has Ricky Ponting
Poms drink quality beer while Australians just drink...

 

[Slow Love™]

Symonds was brought back on in the ODI series when Australia toured SL back in 2004. I remember him chopping a ball on his pads, the umpire gave it out and then realised how stupid a mistake he made. He asked Jayasuriya (or whomever was captain, I think it was him) if Symonds could come back and he did. SL won anyway.

They could have done that this time couldn't they?

Ha, I'd forgotten about that. I think that was the only one-dayer the Sri Lankans won that series.

The only other time I can remember a batsman recalled recently was Sherwin Campbell in the West Indies in '99. He was given out run out, and the disturbance at the ground was so great, the umpires recalled him in order to complete the game. Think he was out, too.

 

[Beleg]

yet you called for umpire Hair to be banned.

Funny that a guy like you is taking that comment seriously. Doubly so in the presence of an emoticon.

Even so, I appologize for the misunderstanding. I have explained that in an earlier post.

Is there any point in attempting to discuss anything at all with you? Without wishing to further inflame your already raw nerves, what point is it that I haven't addressed?

Why isn't the umpires decision a violation? I gather it was the word 'violation' that initially inflamed you so??

 

[Scaly piscine]

The chuckers were cleared at the University of Western Australia.

Where's the article then? And ones from months/years ago are irrelevant.

 

[luckyeddie]

You're being ridiculous. The chuckers had just been cleared, and the Afridi incident is all but cancelled out by the Bell one. Pakistan still have a long way to go before they take England's title of most hated team.

Link, please, to the 'Chuckers have just been cleared' evidence.

I've seen a report that the Pakistan board are supporting Shabbir - but by 'support' they are saying "We are going to help him", not "We believe he's innocent".

Not doubting your integrity or anything.

 

[ClownSymonds]

Where's the article then? And ones from months/years ago are irrelevant.

I don't have time to go searching for it. They were both cleared since being reported last. You can either take my word for it or look it up yourself.

By the way, I never was saying that they've been cleared since the first test against England. By the last time they were reported, I mean the last time they were reported before this series.

 

[Jono]

Ha, I'd forgotten about that. I think that was the only one-dayer the Sri Lankans won that series.

Nah they won the dead rubber as well. 3-2 the eventual scoreline.

 

[Mister Wright]

This is great stuff, England getting beaten by Pakistan and controversy everywhere. What a series!

 

[Lillian Thomson]

I'm not sure if it's a happening that has been exaggerated over the years but we used to hear tales of Sunil Gavaskar bowling around the wicket with the new ball and deliberately scuffing up the wicket for Bedi, Chandra and co.

 

[luckyeddie]

Why isn't the umpires decision a violation? I gather it was the word 'violation' that initially inflamed you so??

From an earlier post....

There are two definitions of violation - one interpretation is that it is a minor transgression (this is an Americanism where they consider a violation to be less than a foul) and the other is where the transgression is far, far worse.

You chose the mild, American interpretation, everyone else chose the proper, English one (because we all know that Americans cannot speak English anyway - and that's a joke before you accuse me of racism as well as calling you names).

Now can we all calm down, please? You're sorry, I'm sorry, let's gang up on the real trouble-maker - ClownSymonds

 

[Slow Love™]

A serious question: has Eddie got Beleg confused with somebody else? I always find the guy to be very reasoned and calm, and it seemed obvious that his "Ban Hair" line was a joke.

Probably a lot of frayed nerves after the day's play, maybe...

 

[supereddi08]

One thing you can say about the poms is they know how to make a test series interesting... far more intrigued watching pak v Engl than WI v Aust at the moment

 

[Jono]

A serious question: has Eddie got Beleg confused with somebody else? I always find the guy to be very reasoned and calm, and it seemed obvious that his "Ban Hair" line was a joke.

Probably a lot of frayed nerves after the day's play, maybe...

Yeah Beleg's a top poster. *shrugs*

 

[supereddi08]

A serious question: has Eddie got Beleg confused with somebody else? I always find the guy to be very reasoned and calm, and it seemed obvious that his "Ban Hair" line was a joke.

Probably a lot of frayed nerves after the day's play, maybe...

Yeah think there was a misunderstanding there, but it's all good, we're all good friends again

 

[ClownSymonds]

Would they do anything to try and repair the damage done by Afridi to the pitch?

 

[Slow Love™]

Well the Shoaib pitch roughing incident has reminded me to rank Pakistan as most hated team. I thought they'd evolved from picking at the ball as they did 5-10 years ago, but obviously nothing has changed. The PCB can still limit a lot of the damage if they ban Afridi for a long time, but as far as I'm concerned this Test series should be abandoned, 2 chuckers in the first Test and now this.

Can this thread get any better?