Red_Ink_Squid
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Tbf the chips were undeniably down when he walked in at #5 with England still trailing Pakistan's 1st innings score by 307 runs.
Does he have technical issues vs spin? Probably.
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Does he have technical issues vs spin? Probably.
BazBall21
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Yeah this was correct. Pakistan's tail wagging for so long (again) knocked England for 6. They needed an innings shootout as the new ball phase was always going to be tough. Duckett had to make runs. Think the game&series went with him.
Son Of Coco
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If Richard was here, he would tell you it is 1 by Mark Lathwell in 1993.
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nightprowler10
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Just watching highlights and seems like Saud was dismissed on a no-ball. Link below.
ImpatientLime
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yeah monumental underachiever if anything.
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But you could say that about Pope too. His overall output was that of a no rounder despite starting out to strongly.
ImpatientLime
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usman afzaals 53 at the oval in 2001 v australia a close second
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LangleyburyCCPlayer
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1. Crawley has not had a great time since the start of the summer, but he was our best batter against Australia and India so he deserves more leeway than Pope, who is lucky that there aren’t tons of top order alternatives
2. The spin cupboard is obviously quite bare, Bashir is obviously the one preferred for Tests in SENA nations, so I wouldn’t necessarily read too much into his struggles in Pakistan, but he is clearly a bit of a punt
3. Brook was decent in the last Ashes, he scored some crucial runs such as in the chase at Headingley (his dismissal was a bit silly but he got us most of the way after a sticky start and Woakes and Wood got the job done), but I’m not sure where his reputation as a good player of spin has come from. Albeit any team still preparing roads for England is clinically insane, but you can’t knock the importance of the innings he played at Pindi and Multan, particularly the speed in which he got those runs
4. Stokes has never been good in Asia, and he’s had injuries before, but it does make you think if this is a step too far. He is an area of concern, because he’s not going to be around forever, certainly not as an all-rounder, and as we saw when he couldn’t play against Sri Lanka, it leaves the batting a bit lighter than what we’d like, maybe Carse can do a job at #7, but like with Woakes these days, that seems a bit of a stretch at international level
mackembhoy
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Its the hope I can't stand. Had same thoughts last week and obviously that didn't go well.
I know post play player interviews can be relied upon to be absolute garbage worthy of the finest example of spinning a positive outcome in all circumstances, but this one was a bit of a zinger i think...
"England spinner Rehan Ahmed says the third test is still level... the momentum is with them at the moment but hopefully we can... try to get a lead"
Because nothing says "level match" like "hopefully we will manage to scrape together enough runs to avoid an innings defeat"! Is this where England are going wrong? They think they're still batting in their first innings?
Pakistan v England: Rehan Ahmed says third Test is 'still level'
England leg-spinner Rehan Ahmed says the third and deciding Test in Pakistan is "still level" despite the tourists losing three wickets late on the second day.
www.bbc.com
"England spinner Rehan Ahmed says the third test is still level... the momentum is with them at the moment but hopefully we can... try to get a lead"
Because nothing says "level match" like "hopefully we will manage to scrape together enough runs to avoid an innings defeat"! Is this where England are going wrong? They think they're still batting in their first innings?
Quite probably. But then "hope to get a defendable lead" still doesn't = "match level" to me! Like i intimated though, part of the point is just to laugh at the pointlessness of the modern player interviews rather than anything specific. Even more so when the BBC has a match report that quite clearly states (somewhat more objectively) "Pakistan well on top..." Why do the media even bother with them? Not even like the BBC has column inches to fill.