Skyliner
State Captain
Could be. Maybe they’d decided in advance how many overs the seamers would bowl in this warm up.
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**Official** England in New Zealand 28 Nov-18 Dec 2024 - 3 Tests
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thundaboult
International Debutant
lol, close game
mackembhoy
International Regular
They are giving it to Pope and picking Bethell for he first test it seems.
Obviously not enough time to get a replacement out there. Absolute morons not selecting a backup keeper and advantage New Zealand.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
The fact that the backup batsman is Bethell seems a lot more insane to me than no backup keeper when there are two serviceable part time keepers in the top order.
mackembhoy
International Regular
They had already said they weren't sure if Cox could keep all 3 before we'd even left Pakistan.
As soon it was announced Smith wasn't going to keep they should have announced they were calling up a backup keeper batsman. I mean going in with only 1 backup batsman that is barely a batsman in Bethell is just further nonsense anyway.
We only seem to have 1 backup batsman at time under McCullum! Was Lawrence for a while and then Cox.
Pope is under massive pressure and him now having to keep and I assume bat 3 isn't going to help him at all.
Molehill
Cricketer Of The Year
There’s also the question of who bats where now too. BazBall has done some excellent things, but there’s a lot of ****ing stupid in there too, the Cox/Bethell selections just the latest.
5 to win and 1 wicket to get. Play on a couple more overs.
I hope England get pumped in NZ. Whilst the Bazball was a breath of fresh air a couple of Summers ago, it's just become incredibly frustrating, so I'd be happy for its demise to be accelerated (basically, get Key out).
I hope England get pumped in NZ. Whilst the Bazball was a breath of fresh air a couple of Summers ago, it's just become incredibly frustrating, so I'd be happy for its demise to be accelerated (basically, get Key out).
Molehill
Cricketer Of The Year
But there are some good things happening too. All of a sudden a half decent crop of seamers have been brought through and look ready for Test Cricket (something Australia haven’t sorted). Smith has been a revelation. They just **** it up with some real dumb **** that isn’t needed.
Robinson or Rew were such more obvious picks.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
I see the logic though in wanting to try out the spare batsman, who you’re more likely to need again in the future than a backup keeper.
Bethell as the new spare batsman is the more questionable call. But hey, he’s here now and he’s been in good white ball nick so you never know.
Skyliner
State Captain
According to Cricinfo Pope won’t be the keeper.
www.espncricinfo.com
‘A replacement will be announced in due course, with Durham's Ollie Robinson expected to be handed a maiden call-up, ahead of England's white-ball regular Phil Salt and Essex's Michael Pepper, who toured the Caribbean with the limited-overs side. Other keeping options included Somerset's James Rew and Lancashire's Matty Hurst, both of whom are due to tour South Africa with the Lions. Jonny Bairstow, still with a year remaining on his central contract, is unlikely to be recalled at this juncture.
Ollie Pope stood in for Cox for the culmination of the warm-up fixture, but England will not want to burden him with more responsibility on top of his duties at No. 3.
Jacob Bethell and Rehan Ahmed will join the rest of the squad in Christchurch on Monday after a few days off following the white-ball tour of the Caribbean which finished last week. Cox's replacement should be on deck in the next 48 hours.’
Jordan Cox ruled out of New Zealand Tests with fractured right thumb
He sustained a blow to his right hand during nets; his replacement will be announced in due course
www.espncricinfo.com
‘A replacement will be announced in due course, with Durham's Ollie Robinson expected to be handed a maiden call-up, ahead of England's white-ball regular Phil Salt and Essex's Michael Pepper, who toured the Caribbean with the limited-overs side. Other keeping options included Somerset's James Rew and Lancashire's Matty Hurst, both of whom are due to tour South Africa with the Lions. Jonny Bairstow, still with a year remaining on his central contract, is unlikely to be recalled at this juncture.
Ollie Pope stood in for Cox for the culmination of the warm-up fixture, but England will not want to burden him with more responsibility on top of his duties at No. 3.
Jacob Bethell and Rehan Ahmed will join the rest of the squad in Christchurch on Monday after a few days off following the white-ball tour of the Caribbean which finished last week. Cox's replacement should be on deck in the next 48 hours.’
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Oh well that explains a lot of things. They were happy to just fly someone else over it need be.According to Cricinfo Pope won’t be the keeper.
Jordan Cox ruled out of New Zealand Tests with fractured right thumb
He sustained a blow to his right hand during nets; his replacement will be announced in due course
‘A replacement will be announced in due course, with Durham's Ollie Robinson expected to be handed a maiden call-up, ahead of England's white-ball regular Phil Salt and Essex's Michael Pepper, who toured the Caribbean with the limited-overs side. Other keeping options included Somerset's James Rew and Lancashire's Matty Hurst, both of whom are due to tour South Africa with the Lions. Jonny Bairstow, still with a year remaining on his central contract, is unlikely to be recalled at this juncture.
Ollie Pope stood in for Cox for the culmination of the warm-up fixture, but England will not want to burden him with more responsibility on top of his duties at No. 3.
Jacob Bethell and Rehan Ahmed will join the rest of the squad in Christchurch on Monday after a few days off following the white-ball tour of the Caribbean which finished last week. Cox's replacement should be on deck in the next 48 hours.’
LangleyburyCCPlayer
State Regular
Stokes will be fuming no doubt!
LangleyburyCCPlayer
State Regular
Bethell as the spare bat isn’t the issue for me, very green but has made a good start to international cricket in the white ball stuff, but there really is no harm in naming a slightly bigger squad so you have cover for your top order and your wicket-keeper, they don’t seem to appreciate how specialist those roles are these days (which is odd because Alex Lees, not a BazBaller by any means, but an actual opening batter played in the early days of BazBall!)
LangleyburyCCPlayer
State Regular
The replacement might be in the country within 48 hours, but will they be in any fit state to play Test cricket? Wouldn’t surprise me if Pope takes the gloves in the first **** and Bethell playsAccording to Cricinfo Pope won’t be the keeper.
Jordan Cox ruled out of New Zealand Tests with fractured right thumb
He sustained a blow to his right hand during nets; his replacement will be announced in due course
‘A replacement will be announced in due course, with Durham's Ollie Robinson expected to be handed a maiden call-up, ahead of England's white-ball regular Phil Salt and Essex's Michael Pepper, who toured the Caribbean with the limited-overs side. Other keeping options included Somerset's James Rew and Lancashire's Matty Hurst, both of whom are due to tour South Africa with the Lions. Jonny Bairstow, still with a year remaining on his central contract, is unlikely to be recalled at this juncture.
Ollie Pope stood in for Cox for the culmination of the warm-up fixture, but England will not want to burden him with more responsibility on top of his duties at No. 3.
Jacob Bethell and Rehan Ahmed will join the rest of the squad in Christchurch on Monday after a few days off following the white-ball tour of the Caribbean which finished last week. Cox's replacement should be on deck in the next 48 hours.’
LangleyburyCCPlayer
State Regular
First Test, ffs!