Don't really get why you're having a go. It's perfectly reasonable to go into the test with 4 bowlers, including Monty and Swann, with Bairstow/ Morgan at 6.
Logical fallacies annoy me whether I agree with the end result or not. Watching people pad their arguments with straw man comparisons and not even understanding what they themselves are really saying annoys me far more than people just flat out disagreeing with me, especially when they go and dig them back up later to prove how right they were all along.
Yeah no doubt, but LFD came into this thread saying he thought Panesar would be more effective than Patel, then patted himself on the back when Patel was innocuous. It was never in doubt; not even from those who would've left Panesar out and picked Patel (again, two separate decisions). They weren't in direct competition.
Either that problem has been rectified by having a few months off (bar the hit and giggle) or we are heading for serious trouble. Might find out tomorrow, if he bowls with far less spin and control it will be a major concern.
Exactly.
Well I was right, looking at what we have seen so far.
I never said they were in direct competition. But they are both the second spin option, hence the natural comparison!
He is and Id have him in the side ahead of Bresnan 10 out of 10 times in England. However, the reality is that he'd not have done too much better on this pitch.
Indeed. But I think both Monty and Swann have improved since then. Swann is clearly the no.1; the strike bowler. Monty is the one to be consistently bowling 30 overs in a day for not many runs.
Completely disagree. If there was one bowler in the England setup who I feel would make serious inroads into their top order - I'd say Onions is most likely because he bowls a full length consistently.
he will be in action soon in a test match ....the way bresnan has bowled today
and what about Kohli...???That was absolutely pathetic from England barring Swann. Dead set pitiful. Was Bresnan taking the piss? Bowling 120s outside off on this wicket? Bowl at the stumps and put some back into it ffs. And we're talking first session here so fatigue ain't an issue.
Went through the posts in this thread (watched the match on delay so only just saw them) and some of the whinging about the pitch being flat (comparing it to the NZ 2010 pitch is ridiculous!!!) was quite hilarious in hindsight, especially when those same posters then were talking about how much spin it was taking on day 1. Swann was really getting some serious turn.
Ojha and Ashwin could be very dangerous on this wicket if they bowl well. India in the driving seat.
Oh and Pujara
Arguable. Onions record suggests that he is the most expensive bowler in this English set up, and he was also one of the most expensive bowlers in the warm ups. Reason - Pitching the ball up when your deliveries finish gun barrel straight at medium fast is virtually useless, especially if you arent especially tall. Onions isnt likely to do much unless hes got something to work with either in the air on in the pitch, and we know that this was categorically not the case yesterday.
How's Sir Geoffrey's Hindi?Star have huge commentory team for this series english hindi combined...if sky was here more would have joined in....
Gavaskar,Kapil,Shastri,Rameez,Sidhu,Arun lal,Siva,dravid,ganguly,manjarekar,coolingwood,boycott,ayaz,harsha....did i miss any one ?
only problem is like only 2-3 people in that
