***Official*** England in India

[Neil Pickup]

(thinking about it in depth now- we fans often forget that we have made no contribution whatsoever, so there's really no real reason to feel overjoyed or dejected.
we are a bunch of ****s wasting our time or getting entertained watching others win or lose, make $$$$ and have a reasonably good time playing sports).

How involved in grass-roots cricket does someone need to be before they can legitimately say "we", then?

 

[centurymaker]

Delighted to do so. I think my brain utterly rejected the hypothesis of the pitch turning into an absolute road on the grounds that it made no sense whatsoever for India to produce such a wicket for a must-win game... c'est la vie...

yeah, it's almost like some inner party wanted india to lose the series #conspiracy

 

[centurymaker]

How involved in grass-roots cricket does someone need to be before they can legitimately say "we", then?

upto you to decide.

i for one don't use 'we' for india.

& I was hoping for england to not lose wickets in fear of getting my prediction horribly wrong, although the prediction was half in jest,
thanks to pews

 

[uvelocity]

This is a pretty fitting end to indias rise and fall. A useless performance and bad tactics on a boring pitch.

nah ****, it gets worse for you when we turn up

 

[uvelocity]

royal we ftr

 

[Spikey]

It would have been understandable had they come out to bat with quick runs in mind, without bothering if they lost wickets in the process. To everyone's shock, though, R Ashwin began the day turning down singles, which he had been doing in Kolkata too before hitting boundaries when the field came up towards the end of the over. Back then, though, England were going after wickets. Only the naïve would expect them to bring the field up in this situation.

Brace up for this. Hold on to your armchairs, for you might fall off them: India did expect just the same from England. "The same as the last game," Ashwin said of refusing singles. "Looking for the last two balls for the fielders to come in. They had a different strategy [this time]. They didn't bring the fielders up. After two overs we decided to take the singles."

India v England, 4th Test, Nagpur, 4th day : Sidharth Monga: India, waiting and hoping | Cricket Features | India v England | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[Neil Pickup]

Why was Ashwin whining about Trott hitting Jadeja's mystery ball for four?

 

[Cabinet96]

Yeah, I don't really understand the problems with that. David Lloyd said he didn't think Trott should have done it either. As far as I see it, it's just a bad ball, albeit a really bad one that is unusual.

 

[hendrix]

As far as I see it, it's just a bad ball, albeit a really bad one that is unusual.

exactly.

It's not as if anyone ever tries to bowl longhops or wide half volley's, so I don't get the "it slipped out of his hand' thing. He executed poorly and was punished. Maybe he executes the next one brilliantly and it's a unplayable delivery that takes a wicket

Besides, it's only 4 runs. Not the end of the world.

 

[stumpski]

Storm-in-teacup stuff, given that Dhoni and Jadeja were laughing when it happened. They weren't bothered, so I'm not sure why Ashwin should've been.

 

[Cevno]

India v England, 4th Test, Nagpur, 4th day : Sidharth Monga: India, waiting and hoping | Cricket Features | India v England | ESPN Cricinfo

Another good piece by Sid Monga on the day yesterday.

Probably the best writer vis a vis Indian matters on Cricinfo.

 

[Jono]

Delighted to do so. I think my brain utterly rejected the hypothesis of the pitch turning into an absolute road on the grounds that it made no sense whatsoever for India to produce such a wicket for a must-win game... c'est la vie...

Fair play.

 

[Jono]

nah ****, it gets worse for you when we turn up

I have no interest in what the Sydney Thunder do when they tour India.

 

[Jono]

Why was Ashwin whining about Trott hitting Jadeja's mystery ball for four?

The same reason England whined when Bell was run out at Trent Bridge I imagine

Dhoni found it funny. But maybe he was just laughing at how in less than 2 years he has fallen from on top of the world to having to keep to a ball that bounces 10 times.

 

[LegionOfBrad]

India v England, 4th Test, Nagpur, 4th day : Sidharth Monga: India, waiting and hoping | Cricket Features | India v England | ESPN Cricinfo

Another good piece by Sid Monga on the day yesterday.

Probably the best writer vis a vis Indian matters on Cricinfo.

Monga has been struggling to hide his anger at how India have been playing in the last 3 tests. I think his piece with all the quotes of denial after the last test was my favourite.

 

[zaremba]

Storm-in-teacup stuff, given that Dhoni and Jadeja were laughing when it happened. They weren't bothered, so I'm not sure why Ashwin should've been.

Quite.

And if there's a batsman in world cricket who you should know it's not worth sledging or trying to wind up it's yer man Trott. The man lives in his own little world when he's batting.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Yeah, I don't really understand the problems with that. David Lloyd said he didn't think Trott should have done it either. As far as I see it, it's just a bad ball, albeit a really bad one that is unusual.

If Trott hadn't gone and smacked it to the boundary it would have went for four byes anyway

Actually 5 wides. He did them a favour.

 

[Dan]

Should have walked over and played a really exaggerated forward defense to it, IMO.

That or circle it a couple of times, picking an obscure area of the field to hit it to.

 

[Jono]

Should have walked over and played a really exaggerated forward defense to it, IMO.

That's what Cook would have done, no doubt.

That or circle it a couple of times, picking an obscure area of the field to hit it to.

Attempt to smack it to fine leg and accidentally hit it onto the stumps ftw

 

[Cabinet96]

That's what Cook would have done, no doubt.

Well if you're gonna play for the draw, you might as well do it properly.