honestbharani
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***Official*** England in India 2016/17
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And you learn to understand cricket. We all will enjoy our forum experience so much more.
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I don't know if you guys have read the book White Fang. It starts with a description of a desolate Alaskan landscape, with two men guarding the dying embers of a fire, and a pack of wolves closing in on them at every opportunity.
I imagine facing these guys in a situation like this, with half the team camped around the bat must be a similar experience.
I imagine facing these guys in a situation like this, with half the team camped around the bat must be a similar experience.
OverratedSanity
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Reading it off the pitch is pretty much a recipe for disaster. Got to read it from the hand, while also getting into a position where even if you've picked it incorrectly, you get away with it. Rahane yesterday was embarrassing. Been a while since I've seen a top class Indian batsman struggle to pick a googly like that.
Also, DRS is brutal for batting vs spin. Padding it away like batsmen used to do before is simply not an option.
Blocky
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The way you understand cricket, Ashwin is a world conqueror who bowls absolute wonder and doesn't rely on conditions to be effective... history and hindsight however shows that's not quite right.
There's Root doing what I've said is the option most of these non sub continent guys do for scoring, create room bigtime to leg and smash it through the off side, that's so dangerous with variable bounce.
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He was fine at 5 for this series when you have Stokes, Bairstow and Woakes coming in after. The trouble is we have nobody to bat at 4 so he had to and then at 3 after the injury which can happen at any time anyway so it not like he is going to bat there again.
God help us if Hameed is out of the tour though. Duckett back in to open.
harsh.ag
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Yeah. Was already into the shot. Loop and dip and flight.
indiaholic
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Wish Laxman was still playing. Would be a proper education in how to play like that.
Blocky
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#IanBellAlert.He was fine at 5 for this series when you have Stokes, Bairstow and Woakes coming in after. The trouble is we have nobody to bat at 4 so he had to and then at 3 after the injury which can happen at any time anyway so it not like he is going to bat there again.
God help us if Hameed is out of the tour though. Duckett back in to open.
Who else can you really call and hope they'd be able to contribute in that middle order? Root can move up to opening without too much issue. Is there any young talent in England coming up?
honestbharani
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Given the way you understand cricket is a ball that hit the top of middle on the way up as a grubber, no lectures for me, thanks... Go troll elsewhere.
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Lol Bell. Would love to see him come back and attempt a lame cut vs spin only to chop one onto middle stump
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The way Bell plays spin we may as well play Duckett or Ballance.
I'd call up Clarke and Gubbins but they will probably call up Bell-Drummond.
I see Dobell was saying they should call up Compton. He gets worse the more he says.
artvandalay
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Yea I wasn't talking about reading it off the pitch, it does seem as though too many players just don't have time when they bat in Asia. You see the way Younis Khan plays spin for instance, it's so good. Even Pujara struggled on fast pitches against off spin and I'd say he's the best player of spin in the Indian line up even above Kohli and Vijay.
Blocky
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You got a little robbed of some of your younger talent to be honest, James Taylor having to give the game away would've been a blow, but I refuse to believe that Duckett is the best you've got available back there.
I recall Bell being able to hit spinners reasonably well; I think the thing you'd tell him is to at least take on the challenge, at the moment, stoic 60 ball 20s aren't doing it for England, especially with pitch deterioration and how dominant these guys become when the pitches turn to unpredictable ****.
I recall Bell being able to hit spinners reasonably well; I think the thing you'd tell him is to at least take on the challenge, at the moment, stoic 60 ball 20s aren't doing it for England, especially with pitch deterioration and how dominant these guys become when the pitches turn to unpredictable ****.
theegyptian
International Vice-Captain
Moeen bats 3 in first class cricket - and spends most of his time talking about how he'd like to bat higher and be a batsman for England, rather than an allrounder. He got the opportunity.
The truth is he isn't good enough against pace or spin to bat in the top 5 in test cricket. 6 or 7 (or 8) is the ideal spot for him and he should think of himself as an allrounder.
I wish England and Moeen would settle upon that point and try and make the best of his ability - rather than promoting him up the order every so often because they think he might make it as a batsman.
Blocky
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Reading it out of the hand is vital, but I'm talking about picking up the length quickly - I think a lot of the dismissals (including Cook and Mo) are coming due to batsmen mistaking the length and being through their shots - the greats, like Laxman, was amazingly quick at judging the length and getting in position to either attack or defend. At times watching Cook (and admittedly NZ batsmen too) - it's throw that front dog out there as quick as possible and hope you can smother the ball, it also means balls that are short enough to actually punish are becoming wicket takers because they're so reliant on that front dog.
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That starting passage was mesmeric. Amazing book