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*Official* England in Australia (2 T20 & 7 ODIs)

Jacknife

International Captain
Anderson and Broad are quality bowlers? I know that the grass is always greener on the other side and whilst I have no doubt that Anderson and Broad are better than Bresnan and Tremlett, have you ever seen the 2 of them bowl in ODI cricket? Only Swann stands up when it comes to being a good ODI bowler, the rest are serviceable at best. We got one quality bowler, one quality batsman in Morgan and then some serviceable players (maybe some like Bell and Pietersen have the potential to raise their game). My personal belief is that in LOI, any team can be competitive if they are lightening in the field and that is what we are seeing at the moment.
I think Broad in particular is a very good one day bowler and it's hard to understand how you don't think he is and to say that neither are quality bowlers is a bit dishonest tbh. Broad's got 124 wickets in 73 games at 25, I don't know many fast bowlers around at the moment who can top that. I think Anderson has started to improve over this last year and I wouldn't be surprised if he has a very good year in the one day stuff.
 
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stephen

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
He had like three innings didn't he? Barely got a hit, everyone above him was so bloody rampant.

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Swann being out makes this England attack look... average, to say the least.
Hussey has had 6 world cup innings and in those innings has made 87 runs at 17.4.

He made 4 vs Scotland and 2 vs the Netherlands and 9 vs the West Indies.

Suffice to say he had a shocking world cup (he just happened to be in the winning side).
 

pup11

International Coach
Hussey has had 6 world cup innings and in those innings has made 87 runs at 17.4.

He made 4 vs Scotland and 2 vs the Netherlands and 9 vs the West Indies.

Suffice to say he had a shocking world cup (he just happened to be in the winning side).
Mate.... seriously were you even watching those games..? Hussey probably didn't get more than a few 5-6 overs to bat in any of those games, infact during the last worldcup pretty much all the runs came from Hayden, Gilly, Ponting and Clarke, the rest of the batsmen barely got a hit.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
I think Broad in particular is a very good one day bowler and it's hard to understand how you don't think he is and to say that neither are quality bowlers is a bit dishonest tbh. Broad's got 124 wickets in 73 games at 25, I don't know many fast bowlers around at the moment who can top that. I think Anderson has started to improve over this last year and I wouldn't be surprised if he has a very good year in the one day stuff.
Broad's ER is a fair bit above 5. Its hard to think of a regular anywhere in the world with a worse ER than that. Granted he takes wickets, but it shows that hes getting belted around the park while hes doing so, so it all balances out. Anderson does a job, which is take wickets with the new ball especially since he usually gets the white ball to swing (which is important to the side because I think Broad is really only a specialist death bowler) but to suggest that he's a quality bowler when he is averaging 30 @5RPO really highlights both how many poor bowlers there are in ODI cricket at the moment and how we tend to confuse the 2 forms of the game.
 

TumTum

Banned
A kid telling Clarke how to bat on an interview :laugh:

He had a point though, Clarkey is pushing out too much whilst trying to rotate strike.
 

pup11

International Coach
A kid telling Clarke how to bat on an interview :laugh:

He had a point though, Clarkey is pushing out too much whilst trying to rotate strike.
That's one of the main problems with his batting these days, he is crouching a lot lower in his stance these days which is what's really causing him to reach for the ball.
Also was generally pretty disappointed with the way Clarke defended his innings from the other day in the pc, it was a poor knock and he should have just admitted that, but it was just disappointing to hear say that, that his innings was steady and was actually helping the team!!
 

Burgey

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Just saw that clip. Clarke was good about it, but you could tell he wasn't exactly thrilled at the unsolicited advice. Good on the kid for having a crack at him too.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Hussey has had 6 world cup innings and in those innings has made 87 runs at 17.4.

He made 4 vs Scotland and 2 vs the Netherlands and 9 vs the West Indies.

Suffice to say he had a shocking world cup (he just happened to be in the winning side).
This post is a perfect example of why you should never solely look at averages and a list of scores without watching the match(es).

Hussey basically didn't play the 2007 World Cup. Not as a batsman. He was barely ever required.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Press conference. Was on the news.

Edit: Found a link.
I saw the video.

Far from a Clarke fan, but he handled it well. Didn't get defensive, but at the same time didn't laugh it up to suggest that it was appropriate for a kid to sneak into the press conference.

That being said, lol @ the kid. WAG.
 

Jacknife

International Captain
Broad's ER is a fair bit above 5. Its hard to think of a regular anywhere in the world with a worse ER than that. Granted he takes wickets, but it shows that hes getting belted around the park while hes doing so, so it all balances out. Anderson does a job, which is take wickets with the new ball especially since he usually gets the white ball to swing (which is important to the side because I think Broad is really only a specialist death bowler) but to suggest that he's a quality bowler when he is averaging 30 @5RPO really highlights both how many poor bowlers there are in ODI cricket at the moment and how we tend to confuse the 2 forms of the game.
When you open and bowl at the death you are going to go for a few runs and to be honest 5.15 is not bad at all. When you compare Broads stats with someone like Steyn, he has much the better return, Steyn goes at 5.27 at 29 average, whereas Broad goes at 5.15 and averages 25. So this talk of you won't find a worse ER than that and getting belted around the park is quite frankly wrong. When you look into Anderson stats he's been better than that 30 average shows, he had a terrible 2008 where he averaged 74, but most years he's been around 25 and while Strauss has been Captain he averages 27. I think on the whole around world cricket, there is a lack of really good one day bowlers, which is surprising considering how much they play.
 

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