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*Official* Emerging Nations Cricket Thread

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Dan

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Daemon said:
Why not? Born in HK and played in their age groups as well apparently.
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Daemon said:
I thought Dan thought he was an import
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Nah, not some 'import' thing (though iirc he has a bit of experience playing in NZ that has certainly helped him). More along the lines of him being backed as the next big thing in Hong Kong cricket since he was 16, and given he's probably got more experience than the rest of the team already, making him VC is thoroughly unsurprising.

My comment was more along the lines of "Chapman being appointed VC is actually far less interesting than it would appear based on Slippah's description, especially if you follow HK cricket".
 
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Dan

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oh also, that Coetzer decision strikes me as classic Bradburn.

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As is Con de Lange.

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Daemon

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Slippaah said:
One recent ICC decision resulted in the winding up of Asian Cricket Council(ACC) by ICC at the end of this month. The ACC has done superb cricket development work, at Age group level ,for years throughout the massive footprint which is Asia/Middle East. Their HQ in KL will close in 4 weeks and jobs will be lost. Associate and Affiliate countries as diverse as Nepal,Thailand, Bhutan, Myanmar, China, Maldives, Iran, Afghanistan, Kuwait and Oman have advanced their cricket as a result.HK cricket will be affected at development level.

ACC DEMERGER IN RESPONSE TO ICC RESTRUCTURING
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Why will it be affected? The demerger is ICC actually trying to take a step forward.
 
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Slippaah

U19 12th Man
Daemon said:
Why will it be affected? The demerger is ICC actually trying to take a step forward.
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Good Question. The new ICC Regional office and staff will need the funding , resources and political will to match ACC's recent efforts at age group level.ACC was an Asia based, self funded organisation with a clear regional focus. It was producing results.

Existing ICC Regions PR and performance has had mixed reviews. A lack of information in the information age


See the tournament page of ACC Tournaments ACC start international competition at U - 16 level. Previously it was U-15. Vital for an Associate like HK who has no quality cricketing neighbour(s) to play against at junior level. ACC provided an automatic pathway for talent ID and player development in HK as well as Coaching input and Mentoring. For example Roy Dias enjoyed remarkable success with Nepal at U 15 and U 17 level a decade ago.

Will ICC organise and fund a womens tournament featuring the Asian countries here ?

ACC Women?s Premier 2014

ICC do a great job at Full Member and Mens and U 19 level and their WCL structure is excellent.

But success in sport begins with Juniors at development level. At the T20 WC Qualifier next month , of the 14 countries , 5 are from ACC's Region. Many of these players will have used the player pathways created by ACC.A job well done I suggest.
 
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Slippaah

U19 12th Man
There is a lot of justified angst from Associate Cricket supporters about their exclusion by ICC. But angst won't cut it. Last year the ICC Board was the subject of a takeover by the Big Three - CA, BCCI and ECB. It was in the nature of a corporate raid. Other Full Members, like minority shareholders , fell into line. In 2014 ICC ceased to be a pure sports administration body managing cricket globally for its members and promoting the interests of cricket worldwide. ICC is now a business, a corporate model designed to further the interests of its controlling shareholders, the Big Three. Consequently ICC has become less relevant to Associate and Affiliate stakeholders and vice versa.That was made clear by the Big Three a year ago . They have control of the cash and will allow a few crumbs to drop from their table . Sadly the angst and the moaning will achieve nothing.
 
Daemon

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Nice little documentary

lol'd @ the indian kid saying motherch*** at 33:19

gotta love the use of chopsticks to eat indian food as well
 
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Slippaah

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ICC T20 WC Qualiifier July 2015

It appears that Cricket Europe and Cricinfo, amongst others, have not been authorised to Live Score this event.

ICC have delegated/sold the tournament coverage rights to OPTA, part of the PERFORM Group.

To quote Cricket Europe;

Unfortunately at the minute we (and Cricinfo amongst others) are being refused permission by the ICC to live score, or even provide a BBC/Guardian type update service from games at the T20 WCQ. We have appealed the decision - ICC are using OPTA for the competition as their official scoring partner.
CricketEurope will do what we can to provide a quality service - albeit with one and possibly two hands tied behind our backs.


So don't be surprised if there is no live coverage on Cricinfo !
 
Raghav

Raghav

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Star Sports holds the TV coverage so can they live stream on cricinfo as an alternative as both are under the ESPN group ?
 
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Slippaah

U19 12th Man
Raghav said:
Star Sports holds the TV coverage so can they live stream on cricinfo as an alternative as both are under the ESPN group ?
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That would be great. But I can find no mention of Live Streaming of tournament matches and LIVE TV coverage of selected matches only . If anyone finds a Live Stream feed ( or any Live Feed) during this July tournament could they please post the link(s) here. That would be appreciated.
 
Howe_zat

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Slippaah said:
There is a lot of justified angst from Associate Cricket supporters about their exclusion by ICC. But angst won't cut it. Last year the ICC Board was the subject of a takeover by the Big Three - CA, BCCI and ECB. It was in the nature of a corporate raid. Other Full Members, like minority shareholders , fell into line. In 2014 ICC ceased to be a pure sports administration body managing cricket globally for its members and promoting the interests of cricket worldwide. ICC is now a business, a corporate model designed to further the interests of its controlling shareholders, the Big Three. Consequently ICC has become less relevant to Associate and Affiliate stakeholders and vice versa.That was made clear by the Big Three a year ago . They have control of the cash and will allow a few crumbs to drop from their table . Sadly the angst and the moaning will achieve nothing.
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This is gibberish. The ICC has always been constructed from the full members. At no point has it been an independent body.
 
WalkingWicket

WalkingWicket

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Some, at least, of these games are live on Sky, which is neat. Always like to watch Associate T20.

Only bad thing is it's an ICC production.
 
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Slippaah

U19 12th Man
Gibberish

Howe_zat said:
This is gibberish. The ICC has always been constructed from the full members. At no point has it been an independent body.
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The History

On 15 June 1909 representatives from England, Australia and South Africa met at Lord's and founded the Imperial Cricket Conference. Membership was confined to the governing bodies of cricket within the British Empire where Test cricket was played. West Indies, New Zealand and India were elected as Full Members in 1926, doubling the number of Test-playing nations to six. That year it was also agreed to make a change in membership, with election being for; "governing bodies of cricket in countries within the Empire to which cricket teams are sent, or which send teams to England." However the United States did not meet these criteria and was not made a member.[9] After the formation of Pakistan in 1947, it was given Test status in 1952, becoming the seventh Test-playing nation. In May 1961 South Africa left the Commonwealth and therefore lost membership.

In 1965, it was renamed as the International Cricket Conference and new rules adopted to permit the election of countries from outside the Commonwealth. This led to the expansion of the Conference, with the admission of Associate Members. Associates were each entitled to one vote, while the Foundation and Full Members were entitled to two votes on ICC resolutions. Foundation Members retained a right of veto

ICC claims to be the benevolent Governing body globally for Cricket for all 106 Members but, like the impotent United Nations, the Inner Circle, the Full Members of ICC rule with the Right of Veto !! The Money God has overtaken ICC reality and common sense. Recently the threat of that reserved power of Veto has been exploited to the detriment of the advancement of cricket globally, despite some great but selective work by ICC. Many cricket fans and supporters have lost the faith !

Yes. You are correct. In the 21st Century it is indeed gibberish.
 
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