***Official*** DRS discussion thread

[Cevno]

Saw a interview today with one of the BCCI vice president about UDRS today on TV and one of the point he made was they are worried that it is foreign technology and may be open to tamper by Home Broadcasters and Match fixing syndicates.
After the checks ,you can't control much he said and have to leave the operation of the thring to the Technology provider and the Broadcaster during the duration of the match as per the licensing agreements.

Anyone with enough Knowledge to know whether it is possible with the licensing agreements etc.. for the Output and the placing of cameras etc.. to be tampered by the Host broadcaster ,Technology provider or Match fixing syndicates?

Or is it just another bollocks excuse? Because that can be a serious issue.

 

[Spark]

It's military technology... tampering with it would be more than just a cricketing issue.

 

[Bun]

Saw a interview today with one of the BCCI vice president about UDRS today on TV and one of the point he made was they are worried that it is foreign technology and may be open to tamper by Home Broadcasters and Match fixing syndicates.
After the checks ,you can't control much he said and have to leave the operation of the thring to the Technology provider and the Broadcaster during the duration of the match as per the licensing agreements.

Anyone with enough Knowledge to know whether it is possible with the licensing agreements etc.. for the Output and the placing of cameras etc.. to be tampered by the Host broadcaster ,Technology provider or Match fixing syndicates?

Or is it just another bollocks excuse? Because that can be a serious issue.

Pfft most likely bollocks.

If needed ICC can conduct a thorough study of the software used....

 

[GIMH]

Saw a interview today with one of the BCCI vice president about UDRS today on TV and one of the point he made was they are worried that it is foreign technology and may be open to tamper by Home Broadcasters and Match fixing syndicates.
After the checks ,you can't control much he said and have to leave the operation of the thring to the Technology provider and the Broadcaster during the duration of the match as per the licensing agreements.

Anyone with enough Knowledge to know whether it is possible with the licensing agreements etc.. for the Output and the placing of cameras etc.. to be tampered by the Host broadcaster ,Technology provider or Match fixing syndicates?

Or is it just another bollocks excuse? Because that can be a serious issue.

Ah yes, the BCCI might be onto something given it's a well known fact there is a conspiracy against India in cricket.

BCCI are **** ****s. End of.

 

[Furball]

Saw a interview today with one of the BCCI vice president about UDRS today on TV and one of the point he made was they are worried that it is foreign technology and may be open to tamper by Home Broadcasters and Match fixing syndicates.
After the checks ,you can't control much he said and have to leave the operation of the thring to the Technology provider and the Broadcaster during the duration of the match as per the licensing agreements.

Anyone with enough Knowledge to know whether it is possible with the licensing agreements etc.. for the Output and the placing of cameras etc.. to be tampered by the Host broadcaster ,Technology provider or Match fixing syndicates?

Or is it just another bollocks excuse? Because that can be a serious issue.

How many more straws can the BCCI clutch at?

 

[fredfertang]

How many more straws can the BCCI clutch at?

How about

1. The technology might be subject to a virus attack which disables it

2. It may be hacked into by betting syndicates to manipulate decisions

 

[Spark]

The UDRS may become self-aware and go on a genocidal rampage, deciding who lives or dies based on slow-mo replays and hawkeye replays. Millions are held in limbo when they are given the status "umpire's call".

 

[vcs]

The UDRS may become self-aware and go on a genocidal rampage, deciding who lives or dies based on slow-mo replays and hawkeye replays. Millions are held in limbo when they are given the status "umpire's call".

 

[four_or_six]

Next, BCCI will be saying that it's too expensive to employ umpires at all, and let the batsmen decide if they're out or not.

 

[Xuhaib]

lol...what a rubbish joke.

 

[Cevno]

UDRS and FTP to come up tomorrow in the conference to decide whether they should be put to vote or not -

ICC news: ICC conference off to tepid start on opening day | Cricket News | Cricinfo ICC Site | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[silentstriker]

The UDRS technology might have a Pakistani engineer who had worked on it and might have engineered an anti Indian bias right into the ball tracking.

 

[Debris]

Saw a interview today with one of the BCCI vice president about UDRS today on TV and one of the point he made was they are worried that it is foreign technology and may be open to tamper by Home Broadcasters and Match fixing syndicates.
After the checks ,you can't control much he said and have to leave the operation of the thring to the Technology provider and the Broadcaster during the duration of the match as per the licensing agreements.

That is some serious high-grade paranoia right there. Does the BCCI really think everyone is out to get them?

 

[gvenkat]

All the sarcasm and cynicism aside, read this article, It does have valid points as to why the DRS in the current form is unacceptable.

If the aim was just to eliminate howlers, Then all we need to do is get away with the entire DRS and let the third umpire make a call in case of howlers.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/current/story/520858.html

 

[silentstriker]

Basically the argument still is that 92% is better than 97% because the latter isn't 100%. How unimpressive. Was expecting something slightly more intelligent.

 

[marc71178]

Is there actually any intelligent argument against URDS though?

 

[gvenkat]

Basically the argument still is that 92% is better than 97% because the latter isn't 100%. How unimpressive. Was expecting something slightly more intelligent.

You fail to grasp the point. The question that is asked is whether DRS has moved far away from what it was originally designed to. Forget about the 92% and 97%.

Say for Instance The kohli dismissal this test, would not have had any impact even with the DRS, because of the absence of the hot spot.

 

[Top_Cat]

The UDRS may become self-aware and go on a genocidal rampage, deciding who lives or dies based on slow-mo replays and hawkeye replays. Millions are held in limbo when they are given the status "umpire's call".

haha.

Personally think too many people everywhere are making the mistake of taking the BCCI's word at the costs. To get that figure, they're probably taking into account everything from the cost of the cams themselves to the poor sods who have to serve the operators tea and bikkies and wipe the lense once a day.

And, as alluded to by other posters, the licensing fee is different for different boards; if you're cashed up and will make a ****-ton of cash via advertising/TV, expect to pay more. That's the whole point of making it a license-based system. The URDS and associated technologies don't just cost money, they make money and the BCCI is being disingenuous by not admitting it (way to feed the conspiracy trolls too, BCCI, you suck, etc.). Look at it this way; if it wasn't a way to get more eyeballs on TV screens and be exposed to advertising, there'd be no point in showing Hawkeye/Hotspot, etc. to the viewing audience at all, it'd just be a back-room tool for the 3rd umpire.

Also, pointing at 92% success rate for umpires then the 95% or whatever it is for URDS and saying it's only a 3% increase is just wrong-headed. Aside from the muddled understanding of statistics at play, the Law of Diminishing Returns applies here too.

 

[Bun]

Is there actually any intelligent argument against URDS though?

economics.

 

[Uppercut]

If there's an intelligent argument out there for something, we can always trust Bun to find it.