***Official*** DRS discussion thread

[Howe_zat]

Yeah, I think given the chance, just about everyone would make their own little tweaks to the system or how to use it.

That said if the BCCI started insisting on Chris Martin batting in the top order...

 

[Cevno]

Eh, not really. There's definitely a wide spectrum of opinions on exactly how it should be applied.
Most people here agree that it's better than not using any technology to aid umpiring, but what you've said is a bit like saying that everyone agrees on the New Zealand batting order because they don't think Chris Martin should be in the top 6.

And here we are with the analogies again.

Yeah, what i meant was that everyone agrees on the fact that UDRS should be implemented.
There will never be unanimous opinion on how it should be implemented though.

Infact i was probably among the first one here that questioned the full accuracy of Hawkeye and have been involved in several arguments about it .
UDRS system though on the whole is better than no UDRS though.

 

[Cevno]

Those comments from Dhoni have certainly put the UDRS issue in focus in the Indian media and they have gone and tried to get reaction from BCCI officials.

Wonder if Dhoni meant to do that in a indirect way by making those comments and also at the same time show his irritation towards a non elite panel umpire officiating.

 

[centurymaker]

It's obviously a stupid sentiment, but it's not an overreaction. I don't get why people don't see how damaging it is for one nation to refuse and alter the playing conditions to this extent. Such a harmful precedent to set even if you don't think UDRS is a big deal.

This is actually a good point. I hadn't thought much about it.

 

[Prince EWS]

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Gun

 

[vcs]

Oh right. Because you say it is. That's your reason why these things are overreactions huh.

****, you think everything is an overreaction and nothing matters. Let's all stay calm and remove the passion out of everything hey?

Give me a ****ing break.

No UDRS in itself is a travesty, but it also sets a damaging precedent. You wouldn't see this of course, because you think people getting upset by BCCI is...yep, an overreaction

And Dhoni's comments? disgrace mate. That's not an overreaction. It's his ****y team and board that won't let us use UDRS and then he comes out and whinges about umpiring? What a ****ing joke! You can **** off calling that an overreaction from me, because that's how I feel, and if you can't see why then you're ****ing ******** and incapable of empathy.

And I guess you'll consider this post an overreaction too.

No offense, I wonder how you manage in real life if you can't handle a bit of disagreement.

*prepares for another rant*

 

[hang on]

since it is the tracking aspect of it that seems to stick in the bcci's craw, why not use the other elements of it for the series. has that been proposed by either side? if so, has it been rejected by either side?

that would be a small step for india, but a giant one for cricketkind.

 

[GIMH]

No offense, I wonder how you manage in real life if you can't handle a bit of disagreement.

*prepares for another rant*

Because obviously that is how I react to everyone who disagrees with me?!

In missing my point you have proved my point, so thank you

 

[vcs]

Because obviously that is how I react to everyone who disagrees with me?!

In missing my point you have proved my point, so thank you

Can only speak for myself TBF. Surely it's possible to make your point without responding like "you are ****ing ******** and incapable of empathy" (****ed if I know what empathy has to do with any of this) if I think you are overreacting. Certainly doesn't help to make your point any clearer.

 

[GIMH]

Nice quote cropping there...

Empathy is relevant because of your abject failure to understand why I react the way I do and you labelling it an overreaction. Just because you seem to view something so dispassionately doesn't mean I or anyone else has to.

Maybe you should understand that if someone cares about something, telling them they are overreacting is hugely provocative.

 

[vcs]

Why don't we wait and see whether he actually gets fined (I'd like to see the context behind those comments first BTW)? If he doesn't, then clearly the people in charge agree with me that it's not a big deal. People have made much worse comments and not been fined for them (was Ponting fined for his rant to Aleem Dar in Brisbane?). It's about applying a consistent standard. How strongly you care about it doesn't come into it. I'm sorry if that sounds insensitive.

BTW, I agree those were stupid, classless comments. Doesn't make him an obnoxious, ignorant wanker, though.

And as for that article about ostracizing India from the game for not agreeing to UDRS, it's the very definition of overreaction.

 

[Teja.]

And as for that article about ostracizing India from the game for not agreeing to UDRS, it's the very definition of overreaction.

Indeed. Whether the outrage is justified or not is another issue but that doesn't mean one loses the right to call an overreaction an overreaction.

 

[GIMH]

Why don't we wait and see whether he actually gets fined (I'd like to see the context behind those comments first BTW)? If he doesn't, then clearly the people in charge agree with me that it's not a big deal. People have made much worse comments and not been fined for them (was Ponting fined for his rant to Aleem Dar in Brisbane?). It's about applying a consistent standard. How strongly you care about it doesn't come into it. I'm sorry if that sounds insensitive.

BTW, I agree those were stupid, classless comments. Doesn't make him an obnoxious, ignorant wanker, though.

And as for that article about ostracizing India from the game for not agreeing to UDRS, it's the very definition of overreaction.

Nah. Whether Dhoni gets fined or not is completely irrelevant. It was a justified reaction from me in that that's how much it wound me up.

For months you've been on your "UDRS is no big deal" high horse acting like some moral authority telling the rest of us how we should feel. It's ****ing annoying. Nowhere have I told you you should care more so don't tell me I should care less.

 

[vcs]

Nah. Whether Dhoni gets fined or not is completely irrelevant. It was a justified reaction from me in that that's how much it wound me up.

For months you've been on your "UDRS is no big deal" high horse acting like some moral authority telling the rest of us how we should feel. It's ****ing annoying. Nowhere have I told you you should care more so don't tell me I should care less.

WTF? I never told you how much you should care about it. I specifically mentioned that article, which is ridiculous. As Teja said, whether or not you think BCCI's stance is justified, an overreaction is an overreaction, period.

Fair enough about Dhoni, I guess. I agree they are poor comments, but hardly anything to fine him over. Surely I'm allowed to say that without offending someone?

 

[Bun]

haha so much for a harmless omment from dhoni

 

[GIMH]

WTF? I never told you how much you should care about it. I specifically mentioned that article, which is ridiculous. As Teja said, whether or not you think BCCI's stance is justified, an overreaction is an overreaction, period.

Fair enough about Dhoni, I guess. I agree they are poor comments, but hardly anything to fine him over. Surely I'm allowed to say that without offending someone?

You're constantly playing the overreaction card. Pisses me off.

 

[vcs]

LOL I'm not playing any card to deliberately piss off someone, believe me. It's genuinely what I feel. OK I might have been wrong to say you are overreacting to Dhoni's comments. How you judge him on those comments is no business of mine, though I feel it may be a tad harsh.

But are you telling me that if I think that article is ridiculously over the top, I'm not allowed to say it?

 

[GIMH]

No, I'm not. I'm saying you shouldn't go round saying people are overreacting to the lack of UDRS. I know you don't intend to piss people off with it but it starts to grate after a while.

 

[Spark]

Think that's quite enough guys. No need to throw around terms like "********" and the like.

 

[GIMH]

Just to clarify, I didn't call anyone ********. Crucial, "if you can't see that then" was cut from my quote.