**Official** Chappell-Hadlee Series

[FaaipDeOiad]

It's hilarious how many runs Tait concedes from edges.

 

[Fiery]

Tait's bowling really well.

Is that sarcasm?

 

[Prince EWS]

We all saw today how part-time and out-of-form bowlers perform against decent batting, given that it is a good pitch and a small ground. I've said it before and I'll definitely say it again: "Specialists are better for the team than half-assed allrounders; Australia haven't relied on allrounders throughout the last decade, and they're the world champions!"

I can't see anyone in the current NZ lineup who makes it on virtue of being an "allrounder" except McCullum. Today was actually a perfect example of why stacking a team with specialists simply doesn't work - you end up with batsmen bowling heaps of overs or a tail that starts at 6. I class Styris and Vettori as allrounders in ODIs, but both of them have been picked based on one aspect of their games. If Styris couldn't bowl at all, he'd still be playing today, and the same goes for Vettori if he batted like Chris Martin. The only player in the NZ first choice lineup who is selected as a combination of his efforts is Jacob Oram and he pulled out with injury.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Is that sarcasm?

Second over was quite good IMO. LBW shout and a genuine edge for four. Just the one bad ball. First over was all over the place though.

 

[Fiery]

I can't see anyone in the current NZ lineup who makes it on virtue of being an "allrounder" except McCullum. Today was actually a perfect example of why stacking a team with specialists simply doesn't work - you end up with batsmen bowling heaps of overs or a tail that starts at 6. I class Styris and Vettori as allrounders in ODIs, but both of them have been picked based on one aspect of their games. If Styris couldn't bowl at all, he'd still be playing today, and the same goes for Vettori if he batted like Chris Martin. The only player in the NZ first choice lineup who is selected as a combination of his efforts is Jacob Oram and he pulled out with injury.

I doubt whether McMillan would have made the side today if he wasn't expected to bowl a few overs...not that I'm saying he's an allrounder

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Is that sarcasm?

Nah, his second over was really good IMO. Admittedly his first was trash, but that's usually the way a Tait spell goes.

 

[Fiery]

Patel or Franklin would have been better options than either McMillan or Fulton today. We have stacked the batting too much, to the detriment of the bowling. Fleming decision to bowl first doesn't seem too clever either

 

[Prince EWS]

I doubt whether McMillan would have made the side today if he wasn't expected to bowl a few overs...not that I'm saying he's an allrounder

I think he would have, considering he was picked ahead of Fulton in the first game despite being in a team that contained four specialist bowlers + Oram + Styris. Not saying I agree with that selectors, but I think he's been picked based on his batting alone. If he couldn't bowl at all, I think Franklin would have played today instead of Fulton.

 

[moshnz]

I can't see anyone in the current NZ lineup who makes it on virtue of being an "allrounder" except McCullum. Today was actually a perfect example of why stacking a team with specialists simply doesn't work - you end up with batsmen bowling heaps of overs or a tail that starts at 6. I class Styris and Vettori as allrounders in ODIs, but both of them have been picked based on one aspect of their games. If Styris couldn't bowl at all, he'd still be playing today, and the same goes for Vettori if he batted like Chris Martin. The only player in the NZ first choice lineup who is selected as a combination of his efforts is Jacob Oram and he pulled out with injury.

The question is do we define an allrounder as someone who can bowl or someone who can bowl effectively?

 

[Fiery]

Second over was quite good IMO. LBW shout and a genuine edge for four. Just the one bad ball. First over was all over the place though.

I just thought that dontcloseyoureyes's comment that "Tait's bowling really well" was puzzling, if he wasn't being sarcastic, considering he was going at 9 an over

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Terrible running considering Tait's arm and the huge total they're chasing.

 

[Fiery]

I think he would have, considering he was picked ahead of Fulton in the first game despite being in a team that contained four specialist bowlers + Oram + Styris. Not saying I agree with that selectors, but I think he's been picked based on his batting alone. If he couldn't bowl at all, I think Franklin would have played today instead of Fulton.

Again...that's debatable. If he was picked on his batting alone he wouldn't be bat at 7

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

I just thought that dontcloseyoureyes's comment that "Tait's bowling really well" was puzzling, if he wasn't being sarcastic, considering he was going at 9 an over

I probably should have clarified with a "this over" at the end.

 

[Fiery]

I probably should have clarified with a "this over" at the end.

Ah, thanks, that makes sense

 

[moshnz]

Ha Tait gets another boundary off an edge lol

 

[Fiery]

This could be a first for me. If NZ win this game it will be the first time I've seen a team win a game using the edges of their bats

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Taylor's been a little lucky but that drive was good watching.

 

[moshnz]

This could be a first for me. If NZ win this game it will be the first time I've seen a team win a game using the edges of their bats

Yeh I miss Parore too

 

[Fiery]

Yeh I miss Parore too

Whennn...aaaa...big kiwi prick gets a 4 from a snick...that's Parore

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

First play and miss against Watson since his return? Well followed up too