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*Official* Big Bash League 2018-19

Gnske

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I think they're just odd signings. As well as stupid with Perth having Qadir apparently listed as an overseas.

Having Harry Gurney and Anton Devcich also doesn't help. I mean if Joe Root and Jos Buttler can willingly appear in between overseas tours as members of the world's second most overworked cricket team. Throw money at Glenn Phillips, he'd take this over the malaise of the NZ t20 comp.
 

Spikey

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I think they're just odd signings. As well as stupid with Perth having Qadir apparently listed as an overseas.
Perth's always been a bit weird with their overseas players, but then they've also been the most successful team so they're sticking with their plan, even if it is the wrong move

Willey at 3 over say Turner is more weird anyway
 
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Gnske

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I will eat my hat if the Qadir conspiracy bears tangible fruit in this tournament.
 

Spikey

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Did decent in the OD cup and everyone in here spent the night complaining about spinners not spinning the ball getting wickets, so I wouldn't rule anything out, assuming he gets a chance to bowl when defending a total above 100
 

TheJediBrah

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Typically, teams don't intentionally decide to pick players that are bad over players that are good. Unfortunately it's not quite that easy to identify the good and bad players. The nature of Australian domestic cricket means that each BBL team is gonna have to pluck out players who are not incumbent Shield/ODD players and who carry question marks over whether they're good enough to play at this level (and for salary cap reasons, you're also gonna need some cheap players. Unless you're Perth). Invariably that means having to give shots to grade players like Sams, Green and McAndrew and you have to hope that the skills and statistical profile you've seen in these guys carry over to the BBL. Additionally you have to remember that nowadays state sides don't have much incentive to contract and play cricketers whose talents don't suit FC cricket, so you have these guys who carry a stigma of "not good enough for FC cricket" but who may have shown something to suggest they could be useful T20 players, and your BBL team has gotta be the one to risk it and give them a chance, and if it works out it can be awesome, and of course sometimes it doesn't work out. It just seems pretty dumb to basically be like "if I was in charge of a BBL team I would simply pick the great players and not pick the bad players and always have my team execute their plans perfectly and I don't get why BBL teams don't do this". No ****, that's what everyone is trying to do. It's not that easy to correctly identify which grade/2nd XI players you need to fill out the squad can make the jump and be a variable asset and which ones can't.
You're still equating the likes of Green & Sams, proven domestic performers, with McAndrews. I agree that it can be hard to judge a player's effectiveness until you give them an opportunity but the type of grade/2nd XI player being selected still doesn't make sense to me. It seems that picking an "all-rounder" just cause they can do a bit of everything has become the preferred option when looking for players to make up the numbers when picking a specialist like, say, a Bertus with better performances the next level down would seem more sensible.

I can see why the assumption that I know better than professional cricket management/coaches seems stupid, I'm not an idiot, but I'm still yet to see compelling
reasoning.

"they can provide an extra bowling option" isn't compelling to me when they are unlikely to be effective with the ball and struggle with the bat anyway
 
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Prince EWS

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You're still equating the likes of Green & Sams, proven domestic performers, with McAndrews. I agree that it can be hard to judge a player's effectiveness until you give them an opportunity but the type of grade/2nd XI player being selected still doesn't make sense to me. It seems that picking an "all-rounder" just cause they can do a bit of everything has become the preferred option when looking for players to make up the numbers when picking a specialist like, say, a Bertus with better performances the next level down would seem more sensible.

I can see why the assumption that I know better than professional cricket management/coaches seems stupid, I'm not an idiot, but I'm still yet to see compelling
reasoning.

"they can provide an extra bowling option" isn't compelling to me when they are unlikely to be effective with the ball and struggle with the bat anyway
Ultimately I think they probably just don't think there are any grade batsmen who they'd bat above Sams or Green in the situations they usually come in. They'd absolutely get more value out of another genuine batsman who could hold his place in the top five, but if Sams and Green are among the best five T20 bowlers and the best seven T20 batsmen available in the squad (plus the pool of unsigned potential squad players), you're going to end up with a player who will at best be the eighth batsman and the sixth bowler. And once you get that situation, you might as well make sure he's both.

I don't really think it's true that there are no batsmen in grade cricket better than Green, but if that's what they think it makes perfect sense to pick a journeyman allrounder instead of picking a specialist batsman at #8 in a 20 over game.
 

NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
Im curious to see if anyone could come up with an XI of uncontracted players who were available.
 

Burgey

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Been more bounce in two overs of this game than there was in 90 at the mcg today.
 

morgieb

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Ouch.

Though I can imagine the Scorchers attack being absolutely nasty on the new Perth Stadium wicket. Loads of quality in their quick bowling stocks.
 

NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
I have no idea how Jhye Richardson isnt currently in any Australian squad right now.
 

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