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*Official* Bangladesh v India 2022/23

Prince EWS

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Daemon said:
Lol and we’re supposed favourites against Aus
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Bangladeshi pitches are kind of cursed tbf. India will be more at home after the bus ride over the border.

Both India and Aus will be worse in these conditions than the last tour, I reckon. India's batting has nosedived and Australia's has improved, but Australia don't really have a Test standard second spinner (aside from Murphy who they won't pick because he's a Lyon clone). SoK was huge on that last tour.
 
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Prince EWS said:
Bangladeshi pitches are kind of cursed tbf. India will be more at home after the bus ride over the border.

Both India and Aus will be worse in these conditions than the last tour, I reckon. India's batting has nosedived and Australia's has improved, but Australia don't really have a Test standard second spinner (aside from Murphy who they won't pick because he's a Lyon clone). SoK was huge on that last tour.
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Iyer is one of our two competent batsmen at the moment. And he's got one gaping hole in his game that Australia will relish exploiting no matter what the conditions. Also no Bumrah.

We need Jadeja to recover from his injury somehow and go full Jadeja.
 
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Just saw the dismissals. What's with a selection of Indian top order batsmen haring randomly down the pitch and running straight past the ball? Reminds me of how Australian batsmen used to play subcontinent conditions under Clarke when they had ingested all the Chappellisms

I know this generation of Indian bats aren't the best against spin, but that form of dismissal surprises me.

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Been banking on pant /Jadeja to bail us out every time for years now.
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In shock twist this Indian side didn't actually overturn 100 years of conventional cricketing wisdom that consistent success in Test cricket requires a stable, solid middle order rather than lower order heroics every second game. People really talked themselves into nonsense on that one.
 
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Spark said:
Just saw the dismissals. What's with a selection of Indian top order batsmen haring randomly down the pitch and running straight past the ball? Reminds me of how Australian batsmen used to play subcontinent conditions under Clarke when they had ingested all the Chappellisms

I know this generation of Indian bats aren't the best against spin, but that form of dismissal surprises me.
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They got tied down by super accurate bowling. Every one of those was caused by the run rate crawling along at 2 rpo. Had to try something but most of these batsmen aren't that good against spin (or anything) like you said so the only alternative to their half hearted forward press is jumping down the track. None of them have a good back foot game against spin, and apart from pant no one even tries sweeping.
 
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Spark said:
Just saw the dismissals. What's with a selection of Indian top order batsmen haring randomly down the pitch and running straight past the ball? Reminds me of how Australian batsmen used to play subcontinent conditions under Clarke when they had ingested all the Chappellisms

I know this generation of Indian bats aren't the best against spin, but that form of dismissal surprises me.
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Yeah they aren't just not-great against spin, they totally play it like similar-overall-standard Aus/NZ bats (and worse than similar-overall-standard English bats!). It's been true for a while but it's fascinating. Rahane (not selected I know) is basically an inverse Peter Handscomb. There's totally an interesting article in this for someone who has the time.
 
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OverratedSanity said:
They got tied down by super accurate bowling. Every one of those was caused by the run rate crawling along at 2 rpo. Had to try something but most of these batsmen aren't that good against spin (or anything) like you said so the only alternative to their half hearted forward press is jumping down the track. None of them have a good back foot game against spin, and apart from pant no one even tries sweeping.
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That's also exactly what Australian batsmen did ca 2010 lol - get totally stuck, try to force the issue by using their feet, miss the ball. That's pretty alarming if they've regressed so far that they've started batting like Australians in the subcontinent.
 
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Spark said:
That's also exactly what Australian batsmen did ca 2010 lol - get totally stuck, try to force the issue by using their feet, miss the ball. That's pretty alarming if they've regressed so far that they've started batting like Australians in the subcontinent.
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Kohli used to have amazing cross bat slap sweep that he'd pull out against the spinners a few years ago. Its disappeared. All he does now is press forward with his bat and pad together like a 90s England batsman. Dreadful stuff tbh.
 
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