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- Thread starter Chewie
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I won't go back in the thread to look, but what is the consensus around the Jamieson no catch? That looks like a horrendous decision. Not at all like the ones we get with potential grounded catches that have shaky vision and obscured views, that was absolutely clear (to me) that he had grasped it cleanly and it's always been my impression that as long as a player had full control, that grounding the ball in that way did not matter.
The Hutt Rec
International Vice-Captain
Apparently coz he hadn’t finished his body movement/wasn’t in full control of his body and grounded it, it shouldn’t have been out. Seemed extremely stupid to me ... not like he was losing balance and heading over a rope, he was just hitting the ground ... I’d say he was in control of things, but it’s down to umpire interpretation I guess.
It does seem like one of those ones 95% of the time they don’t care about, but the odd time they pick up on. Same as Williamson’s bail not being detached from both sides of the stump earlier in the season. Would be given 100% of the time without a third umpire, anyway ... which makes it rather pedantic in my eyes.
It does seem like one of those ones 95% of the time they don’t care about, but the odd time they pick up on. Same as Williamson’s bail not being detached from both sides of the stump earlier in the season. Would be given 100% of the time without a third umpire, anyway ... which makes it rather pedantic in my eyes.
Um.
What else was he supposed to do? You've never seen a person catch a ball then ground it to get up? Then think about how physiologically he could even begin to turn his wrists in that moment to bring the ball up.
cnerd123
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Ground it to get up is clearly different to landing on the ball
There's nothing he could have done. That doesn't mean it's a fair catch.
Kippax
Cricketer Of The Year
Yes people who were on Jamieson's side yesterday need to imagine wicket-keepers beginning to dive for the ones that aren't carrying with their hands facing the ground. That's what you'd be opening a door to.
"I pouched it between thumb and forefinger and then gave the ball a grass stain, but you're still out, because the ball was coming so low that there's not much else I could have done" says the wicket-keeper.
"I pouched it between thumb and forefinger and then gave the ball a grass stain, but you're still out, because the ball was coming so low that there's not much else I could have done" says the wicket-keeper.
The Hutt Rec
International Vice-Captain
I think he’d have landed differently if he thought that was going to be the ruling.
Clearly different situation from the keeper diving forward a millimeter from the ground, and since it’s already at umpire’s discretion, theoretically the door is open to that anyway.
Clearly different situation from the keeper diving forward a millimeter from the ground, and since it’s already at umpire’s discretion, theoretically the door is open to that anyway.
cnerd123
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I'm surprised this is something that needs to be learned, especially for an international cricketer. Literally the first time I've seen any controversy over landing on the ball being called a dropped catch. That's been my understanding of the law my whole life, I've always tried to catch the ball and land in a way that made sure the ball never touched the ground. It's so intuitive.
thundaboult
International Debutant
this would be interesting if we played the bangers in bangerland
over here is predictable
over here is predictable
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
I'm sure there are a couple of outfield catches NZ have taken in the last few years where the fielder grounded the ball right at the end of the movement, or the moment they started to get up, and got away with it. In those cases I think it was just a little lax - could've made an effort to keep the ball off the deck but would've ended up more sprawled or faceplanted on the turf.
In that sense I'm pleased Jamieson's catch was given not out as a reminder to not do that. Don't want it to cost a wicket in a big tournament or test match.
In that sense I'm pleased Jamieson's catch was given not out as a reminder to not do that. Don't want it to cost a wicket in a big tournament or test match.
RossTaylorsBox
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
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Well he's still Young
Well he's still Young
Aritro
International Regular
Flem274*
123/5
youngs thrown me a bit in the past 12 months. made his name scoring 70s on green decks leaving the ball well, smoked a strong india A batting out of position, did well pre-wc against aus and looked a class above all bar conway in the super smash.
his test batting against the windies tho was Not Good. its like the evolution of his white ball game has affected his test credentials.
theres a taylor/latham level talent there but a batting coach needs to sand off the rough edges creeping into his game. follows the ball harder than virat kohli.
his test batting against the windies tho was Not Good. its like the evolution of his white ball game has affected his test credentials.
theres a taylor/latham level talent there but a batting coach needs to sand off the rough edges creeping into his game. follows the ball harder than virat kohli.