*Official* Bangladesh Tour of New Zealand 2019

[straw man]

Hey Astle gets a bowl after all.

Good that Wagner back in form - wasn't very good in his last couple of tests.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

look, I'm not an advocate for Southee in the ODI side, but anyone questioning his place in the test side after literally one bad morning is absurd. He's been genuinely excellent in test cricket for the last 2 years.

Totally, I was wondering if he’s down in the 120s in test cricket as well now, though. Hard to know when I’m just following on cricinfo.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

Hey Astle gets a bowl after all.

Good that Wagner back in form - wasn't very good in his last couple of tests.

He’s definitely answered any doubts, fantastic to see! Getting snubbed for ND in the super smash must have made him angry.

 

[Bahnz]

Hey Astle gets a bowl after all.

Good that Wagner back in form - wasn't very good in his last couple of tests.

Took 4/48 in literally his last test.

 

[straw man]

WAGs. Though SL were much smarter about combating Wagner's bouncers than Bangladesh here. Particularly in that big match-saving partnership, they ducked and left a lot. Whereas Bangladesh responded to Wagner asking 'are you the big man?' here with 'YEAH I'll show you!!' and got out. It's like an intelligence and discretion test for batsmen.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

These bouncers are very well directed.
BD are such a troll team

 

[Athlai]

Wagner WAG

 

[Bahnz]

Yeah definitely. I also think that Wagner struggled to maintain his usual intensity in the Basin test, possibly because of the fact that the team had literally hopped off a round-the-world flight a few days before. All of the bowlers looked completely flat in the second half of that test.

 

[straw man]

Took 4/48 in literally his last test.

Had to look that up - mustn't have seen it live, but he certainly looked off in the first test of that series where he took 2/175.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Wagner WAG

Is he a minnow basher?

 

[The Hutt Rec]

We probably just expect so much from Wagner. He’s had the crucial match-winning spells against England and Pakistan in the first test of both those series over the past year, but hasn’t really taken a decent bag of wickets for a while (batting the last test vs Sri Lanka which it seems several of us forgot lol).

 

[Bahnz]

Is he a minnow basher?

Nah, the most he averages against any country is 35.5 against England. Averages 29 against India, 23 against Australia and Pakistan and 30.5 against South Africa. Also his home and away records are virtually identical (though that's probably at least partially due to him usually being benched for sub-continent based test matches).

 

[straw man]

Yeah definitely. I also think that Wagner struggled to maintain his usual intensity in the Basin test, possibly because of the fact that the team had literally hopped off a round-the-world flight a few days before. All of the bowlers looked completely flat in the second half of that test.

We did all think jet-lag played a part, yes. It was on the back of Wagner being left out for the third test in Pakistan too, having been effective on only one of four innings that series (though it was still harsh). There were a few discussions on how long he could keep with his short ball approach as he ages - that reminds me actually, that 4-fer was where he brought out the angry gestures at someone in the media (and Howsie). Anyway, seems to have some consistency and the intensity you mention back in that short-ball attack.

 

[Bahnz]

We probably just expect so much from Wagner. He’s had the crucial match-winning spells against England and Pakistan in the first test of both those series over the past year, but hasn’t really taken a decent bag of wickets for a while (batting the last test vs Sri Lanka which it seems several of us forgot lol).

2018 was definitely his worst year in ages. Averaged sub-28 for every year between 2014-17. Tbf, the UAE is usually a fast-bowling graveyard, and as mentioned he wasn't the only bowler who went missing at the Basin test. But it was definitely an up-and-down year for him, which is unusual given how consistent he's usually been.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

We did all think jet-lag played a part, yes. It was on the back of Wagner being left out for the third test in Pakistan too, having been effective on only one of four innings that series (though it was still harsh). There were a few discussions on how long he could keep with his short ball approach as he ages - that reminds me actually, that 4-fer was where he brought out the angry gestures at someone in the media (and Howsie). Anyway, seems to have some consistency and the intensity you mention back in that short-ball attack.

I remember it now you mention the gestures haha. It was an article in the NZ Herald from memory.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Nah, the most he averages against any country is 35.5 against England. Averages 29 against India, 23 against Australia and Pakistan and 30.5 against South Africa. Also his home and away records are virtually identical (though that's probably at least partially due to him usually being benched for sub-continent based test matches).

That's solid man.

 

[straw man]

On these modern NZ pitches where the innings scores are a reverse of those in the subcontinent while the pitch approaches maximum roadness, what do we reckon the scores will be?

Bangladesh 250 a.o.
New Zealand 400/8d
Bangladesh 600 a.o.
New Zealand 451/1

?

 

[Athlai]

Is he a minnow basher?

He is a "cant play the short ball" basher. So feasts on most of the weaker sides.

 

[Flametree]

It's like people have never seen NZ, in particular Wagner, bowl before.

 

[straw man]

Southee massaging those bowling figures with late wickets. Pleased Wagner picked up his fifth.

And Tamim still ended up with more than 50% of his sides runs. Some bad batting amongst the rest.