*Official* Bangladesh in West Indies

[Athlai]

"The customer is always right" ey? So whatever the players do, it's the responsibility of the board to keep them happy? Surely that's just asking for more trouble.

From what I can see it's a financially unstable, and undoubtedly corrupt, board against selfish and undisciplined players. Pot and kettle, it seems.

Na the board should keep the players in line as well as keeping them relatively happy. It should keep them happy by doing its job and not ****ing around.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Agreed. According to Hinds this thing was mostly sorted the last strike threat earlier this year btu the WICb reneged on certain things and relations broke down from there.

But what I don't understand is why everything the players say that demonises the WICB is being considered truth without any question, and yet every explanation or statement from the board is automatically questioned, and ultimately disregarded as lies.

Sorry, but having watched these players for years, I'm not at all convinced that most of them are thinking in the interest of West Indies cricket. Certainly they don't play like it half the time.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Na the board should keep the players in line as well as keeping them relatively happy. It should keep them happy by doing its job and not ****ing around.

Neither party is doing its job. The players are indebted to the board as much as the board to the players.

 

[Athlai]

Neither party is doing its job. The players are indebted to the board as much as the board to the players.

Still reckon the WICB is doing the crappest job out of all the boards (PCB doesn't count).

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Still reckon the WICB is doing the crappest job out of all the boards (PCB doesn't count).

Comfortably, but there's not much to work with. The worst thing that happened to the present day WICB was the success of yesteryear West Indies.

 

[roseboy64]

I find it hard to believe the board can't take major responsibility here. Would be a complete 180 in how they operate for them to have any credibility in this matter.

For example, stating that the players will have been granted injury payments that WIPA are complaining about if they'd just filled out the forms the WICB made up. WIPA needs information from the WICb to fill out the forms though and that's not forthcoming.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

I find it hard to believe the board can't take major responsibility here. Would be a complete 180 in how they operate for them to have any credibility in this matter.

What about how the players operate? Tell me one thing that this current batch of players has done that should give them credibility.

 

[roseboy64]

What about how the players operate? Tell me one thing that this current batch of players has done that should give them credibility.

Semis of the T20. Winning our first Test in South Africa. Drawing series with both Sri Lanka and New Zealand.

 

[Athlai]

Decimating England in that first Test and then denying them victory and winning the series at home. The away series was the worst ever planned.

 

[roseboy64]

That away series was the starting point for this current impasse.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Semis of the T20. Winning our first Test in South Africa. Drawing series with both Sri Lanka and New Zealand.

Please don't bring up T20 achievements when talking about West Indies progress. Aside from that, sure the team has improved, but that has tended to correlate with a coaching change. And the fact that the majority of success has come in the West Indies is no surprise.

They're not suddenly worthy of being treated like professional cricketers because they've avoided losing a few matches. Not when all but a handful of them do not display the discipline worthy of lucrative financial investment. Sure, add some financial incentive for performance, but the players shouldn't let that be the motivation to succeed for West Indies. This is all without considering that the WICB probably cannot afford to pay professional contracts on a regular basis. No sponsors, no spectators, no Stanford - where is the money coming from?

 

[roseboy64]

Well 15MUS from India as well as a pretty lucrative TV rights deal with Sky.


Of course they should be treated like pros and that means nto only in payment. Professional efforts should be expected though to get professional payment. Never said that wasn't the case. Hence my arguing that they should be more professional. Wasn't talking about money.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Funding from Sky would in relation of England-West Indies series, surely, which isn't enough to run a cricketing body long term. I think it's fair to say that WICB isn't hiding millions from the players. Sure, corruption probably has a hand in the lack of funds too, but that doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist. If there's no money, there's no money.

Anyway, on another note, how bad must the spinners in Jamaican club cricket be? Considering that Walton was in fine form coming into this series.

EDIT: I know that last bit looks like I'm getting personal and attacking Jamaica, but I assure you I'm not. I'm just commenting on the fact that Walton was top runscorer in club cricket there and looks like a muppet against the Bangladeshis.

 

[roseboy64]

Hopefully just stage fright.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Good gloveman, but clearly not up to Ramdin's batsmanship...and that's not much. All the same, I hope he remains as number two after these contract squabbles are sorted, because he can certainly catch the ball.

 

[shivfan]

In fairness, Shakib is a bit better than a part-time spinner.

I was actually talking about Ryan Hinds himself....

It might be flawed logic, but you'd think that someone who bowls part=time spin should have some idea of how to bat against it.

 

[TT Boy]

Hopefully just stage fright.

Hehe. The ground is empty and he is playing against Bangladesh. You really can't get any easier introduction to test cricket.

 

[roseboy64]

Nerves still affect.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

I was actually talking about Ryan Hinds himself....

It might be flawed logic, but you'd think that someone who bowls part=time spin should have some idea of how to bat against it.

Yes, but Ryan Hinds bowls part-time spin. Shakib is a genuine spinner. Hinds bowls unthreatening, nonturners, whereas Shakib is an actual spin bowler. There's a big difference.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Nerves still affect.

But it's not like he's made poor shot choices. He's genuinely looked incapable of playing spin. I think it's a bit more than just stage fright. He certainly doesn't look timid behind the stumps.