*Official* Australian Domestic Season Thread

[luffy]

How good was Thornely's runout Yesterday!!

IMO i think he is the best fielder in Australia at the moment.

 

[Mister Wright]

Qld did well despite no hayden,don't understand why martin love is not in the one day side.

Love was dropped towards the middle of last season or maybe even before the season started in the OD side, he wasn't in the greatest of form and they wanted him to concentrate on his FC form. Since then, I don't think they will play him again with trying to get some younger players into the team. He was a fine top order OD player, but we really need him to do well in the FC side. Now that QLD are 2-0 for the season and the younger guys have shown promise, I doubt he will play OD cricket for QLD again.

 

[Mister Wright]

Anyway, I actually thought Bird was alright today. Certainly more impressive than Bollinger or Henriques with the ball. I doubt he's a "future star", but he could develop into a handy domestic bowler in a couple of years, if he stays fit. I also liked the look of Sullivan for Queensland.

Did they show what pace Bird was bowling on the live coverage? He looked to be very slow live. Early he was wayward early and didn't really trouble any batsman. Wasn't this the same guy who hit Slater on the helmet? Either he's been injured and therefore lost pace or Slater was having a real bad time of it.

Didn't mind the look of "I've come to clean ze pool" Henriques. Bowling looked sharpish, but didn't really trouble Peren and Hopes too much. Didn't get to see much of his batting, top order kind of ruined it for him.

 

[Clarence]

Bird was bowling alot of slower balls...his normal deliveries were in the 130s I think.

 

[Perm]

Good win for Queensland with James Hopes having a very good game, how far behind Shane Watson would he be rated as an all-rounder in the Australian selectors eyes? I know he has played a couple of one dayers but is it likely he'll get test matches in the future?

 

[Mister Wright]

Good win for Queensland with James Hopes having a very good game, how far behind Shane Watson would he be rated as an all-rounder in the Australian selectors eyes? I know he has played a couple of one dayers but is it likely he'll get test matches in the future?

Doubt he'll play a test match, although wouldn't be out of place. He isn't the youngest bloke going around. If he was 21 he might be a serious contender for the national side. I still think he could play a serious role in our ODI side, as he can bat anywhere in the order and bowl 10 tight overs, and pick up wickets.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Did they show what pace Bird was bowling on the live coverage? He looked to be very slow live. Early he was wayward early and didn't really trouble any batsman. Wasn't this the same guy who hit Slater on the helmet? Either he's been injured and therefore lost pace or Slater was having a real bad time of it.

Didn't mind the look of "I've come to clean ze pool" Henriques. Bowling looked sharpish, but didn't really trouble Peren and Hopes too much. Didn't get to see much of his batting, top order kind of ruined it for him.

Bird hit Slater when his action was a lot more... er... "suspect". He's had a fair bit of correctional work since then.

 

[Perm]

Doubt he'll play a test match, although wouldn't be out of place. He isn't the youngest bloke going around. If he was 21 he might be a serious contender for the national side. I still think he could play a serious role in our ODI side, as he can bat anywhere in the order and bowl 10 tight overs, and pick up wickets.

I just looked him up on cricinfo and he's only just turned 28 but he doesn't have a very good FC record, averaging 29 with the bat and 39 with the ball. I'd say your comments about him being an ODI player are pretty accurate, from what I've seen he looks like he'll have the goods. Aggressive batsman, pretty consistent bowling. I'd like to see more of him, he looks pretty handy.

 

[Mister Wright]

I just looked him up on cricinfo and he's only just turned 28 but he doesn't have a very good FC record, averaging 29 with the bat and 39 with the ball. I'd say your comments about him being an ODI player are pretty accurate, from what I've seen he looks like he'll have the goods. Aggressive batsman, pretty consistent bowling. I'd like to see more of him, he looks pretty handy.

His FC record isn't all that flash because he had a shocking first couple of seasons. Since then he has improved dramatically especially the last season or so. IMO he would be better option than Shane Watson in the ODI side, whereas Watson is clearly the better FC player.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Did they show what pace Bird was bowling on the live coverage? He looked to be very slow live. Early he was wayward early and didn't really trouble any batsman. Wasn't this the same guy who hit Slater on the helmet? Either he's been injured and therefore lost pace or Slater was having a real bad time of it.

Didn't mind the look of "I've come to clean ze pool" Henriques. Bowling looked sharpish, but didn't really trouble Peren and Hopes too much. Didn't get to see much of his batting, top order kind of ruined it for him.

Bird was bowling from the high 130s to the low 140s. Similar sort of pace to Mitchell Johnson, behind Lee and Tait. Certainly not slow, and much quicker than Henriques who was bowling high 120s. He was a bit wayward, but certainly not terrible or anything. Like I said, a bit of experience and he could be a good bowler, he's certainly quick and can swing the ball.

Too early to judge Henriques obviously, but he's certainly got talent. A couple of years without injuries and he could develop a long way.

 

[Mister Wright]

Bird was bowling from the high 130s to the low 140s. Similar sort of pace to Mitchell Johnson, behind Lee and Tait. Certainly not slow, and much quicker than Henriques who was bowling high 120s. He was a bit wayward, but certainly not terrible or anything. Like I said, a bit of experience and he could be a good bowler, he's certainly quick and can swing the ball.

Too early to judge Henriques obviously, but he's certainly got talent. A couple of years without injuries and he could develop a long way.

high 130s, 140s, really? Hmmm....that's surprising, he really looked a lot slower than that. All the other bowlers seemed faster than him.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

high 130s, 140s, really? Hmmm....that's surprising, he really looked a lot slower than that. All the other bowlers seemed faster than him.

I didn't see every ball he bowled, just the brief spell he bowled before he was replaced by Hauritz, but he started out around 135 and peaked at about 142.

 

[age_master]

Doubt he'll play a test match, although wouldn't be out of place. He isn't the youngest bloke going around. If he was 21 he might be a serious contender for the national side. I still think he could play a serious role in our ODI side, as he can bat anywhere in the order and bowl 10 tight overs, and pick up wickets.

Hes far better an ODI player then Watson i reakon, i think Cosgrove might get an extended shot in the ODI team before Hopes though.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Hopes might be a better OD player right now, but Watson has far more scope for improvement, as we've seen recently. If Hopes was to become an ODI regular (which I doubt he will), he'd never be anything more than a bits and pieces player who'd make a few runs or bowl a good 10 overs every few games. He's never going to be particularly destructive with the ball and Watson's likely to be a better batsman in the long term I think.

Having said that, Hopes is a good bowler on a slow wicket and might have been handy in the CT. He bowled very well in his ODI debut in New Zealand. I can't see him having long term success in ODIs on Australian wickets though, and he's just not the sort of player the Australian selectors like as he's not particularly brilliant in either discipline. We'd be better off picking a better batsman and having Symonds bowl the overs that Hopes would.

 

[aussie]

I reckon if Hopes has a solid domestic OD season he can get the nod for the world cup, his batting was impressive enough in the last VB series IMO and i reckon his bowling can be effective in the windies, overall he would be a good utility player to have in the ODI squad.

 

[Mister Wright]

Pura Cup progressive scores:

NSW 3/52 heading into lunch on the first day against QLD. Hopes has 2 wickets and Jaques out for 3.

Victoria 0/36 against S.A. after 10 overs.

 

[Haddin]

4 down. This is sad. I'd be happy with a single NSW win this season. At least the Coverage is better, thanks Fox Sports.

 

[Pratters]

NSW batting has been very poor. I know they are giving young blokes a chance but surely you need some sort of solidity. Maybe bringing some experienced but not great player might help (if some one who fits that bill exists). Any solutions?

 

[Haddin]

Simple problem: Haddin and Jaques fail, then the team fails. But I am impressed with Nathan Hauritz.

 

[Alysum]

NSW looking good for the wooden spoon