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**Official** Australian Domestic Season 2013/14
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Prince EWS
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Oh he's definitely a hack; he's just an entirely unsuccessful hack. I think Hartley, Paine, Nev etc would make better #8s than him anyway, as long as the opposition actually knew how to bowl in the batsman's half.
I think the best fit for the spot if I was going to really follow through on my thoughts on it would be Tim Paine. Pre-injury he was actually quite a good OD player - better with the gloves than Haddin is now and actually had success batting through the innings (ironically) as a top order playing, having an average in the mid 30s (which has dropped a bit now) and five tons (one of which was in an ODI). As I said before he's not really suited to the finisher's role as he's a correct player and not a big hitter, although he definitely did develop some ramps and glides as a T20 cricketer. What's really holding me back from putting my balls on the line and advocating one of CricketWeb's most mocked players for the job is that I haven't really seen him play much since that bad injury - he hasn't scored any runs since then and he may not be keeping as well either. If he's not a better keeper than Haddin then it makes it all entirely pointless. Don't want to derail the thread too much from the all-important discussion of NSW's Sheffield Shield campaign, but I think I'd be working towards an ODI side looking like this if Paine could give me what I wanted (ie. improvisation with the bat and tidy keeping) though:
1. Watson
2. Hughes
3. Clarke
4. Bailey
5. Smith
6. Maxwell/Voges
7. Faulkner
8. Paine
9. Starc
10. McKay/Johnson
11. Spinner/Johnson
Happy enough to take Haddin through to the World Cup as long as he keeps decently though. I really do think his time of being worth much with the bat in ODI cricket is over but he's still the most suited to being a finisher if he can ensure his glovework doesn't slip.
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I'm not sure his taste buds can handle much more.
adub
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Back to the important issues?
Does Haddin hate keeping to spinners or what? Copes is going nicely on the ABF road with 3/37 at a bit over 3.5rpo, but all the other trundlers are going 4 rpo plus. He's bowled 5 overs of SOK who was his usual tidy but nothing at all from Lyon.
From this distance it looks like we'd we in a better place with more overs of spin. It's too late to try and play Lyon out of the test team now Hadds. Give him and SOK some more overs ****.
Does Haddin hate keeping to spinners or what? Copes is going nicely on the ABF road with 3/37 at a bit over 3.5rpo, but all the other trundlers are going 4 rpo plus. He's bowled 5 overs of SOK who was his usual tidy but nothing at all from Lyon.
From this distance it looks like we'd we in a better place with more overs of spin. It's too late to try and play Lyon out of the test team now Hadds. Give him and SOK some more overs ****.
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@ adub-step
Maybe it's a wind issue. Copes bowling into it so hesitant to give the spinner the breeze in his back.
Maybe it's a wind issue. Copes bowling into it so hesitant to give the spinner the breeze in his back.
NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
All we need now is a Hughes century.
The funny thing is during my golden summer run I wasn't winning on the punt, but now that I'm supposed to be tasting, I'm winning. How bout those Knicks today!
I'm a little surprised that Hartley is back behind Hopes again. Oh and bad luck Big Show, Scott Boland providing some nuisance value.
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How deep will Horse Face be if he makes bulk runs this innings? Bearing in mind there is a 1.8x value on runs vs NSW.
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you let the wa top order make about 200 runs so the tail getting WA to 400 was always on
Prince EWS
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I've always rated him but I think he's further away than you think. Last season he didn't play a single game, the season before he averaged less than 20 in 14 innings and got dropped, and the season before that he actually scored a bucketload of runs but was then surprisingly ignored for any winter cricket despite about 30 blokes playing either A-team stuff or attending the CoE.
Scoring lots of runs this summer is going to be a big stepping stone for him and I hope he does it but he's not going to be in the frame for the Ashes IMO. Wouldn't mind if he was, but I don't think he will be.
