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***Official*** Australian Domestic Season 2010/11

TumTum

Banned
I think Smith is getting better flight here than Hauritz, based on what I can see from this stream.
2 half trackers in that over.

Smith can't spin it, bowl a googly or any type of variation for that matter. In comparison Hauritz is exactly the same, except that he has better accuracy. A master class here on how to not bowl spin.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Haha, I think we now have a direct comparative test as to who's bowling better. Smith went for 1 in that over I think, Hauritz comes in next over, gets hit for 9.

Well I suppose Hauritz is getting very good accuracy - consistently landing flat half-volleys that are being hammered. Smith is getting nice flight when he bowls it full.

100 for Duss! Last 50 came quick.
 
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robelinda

International Vice-Captain
The Vics look to have a very light bowling attack, is Bryce injured at the moment? Hastings as part of of 3 man pace attack looks a little suspect to me. Could be some huge scores when NSW bat, Hussey had better get a big one now.
 

TumTum

Banned
Haha, I think we now have a direct comparative test as to who's bowling better. Smith went for 1 in that over I think, Hauritz comes in next over, gets hit for 9.

Well I suppose Hauritz is getting very good accuracy - consistently landing flat half-volleys that are being hammered. Smith is getting nice flight when he bowls it full.
Well these 2 are not really the best batsmen on putting away loose deliveries, Smith has dished up about 2 full tosses and 2 half tracker every over.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Haha, I think we now have a direct comparative test as to who's bowling better. Smith went for 1 in that over I think, Hauritz comes in next over, gets hit for 9.

Well I suppose Hauritz is getting very good accuracy - consistently landing flat half-volleys that are being hammered. Smith is getting nice flight when he bowls it full.

100 for Duss! Last 50 came quick.
They're both bowling pretty rank. If you didn't know better you'd think they both had First Class bowling averages north of 40.



Oh wait.
 

TumTum

Banned
They're both bowling pretty rank. If you didn't know better you'd think they both had First Class bowling averages north of 40.



Oh wait.
What great spin resources Australia have, 2 battling here over an Ashes place whilst averaging above 40 :laugh:
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
And somewhat ironically, even North has an average south of Hauritz and Smith.
Haha yeah, I remember making a post before the last Ashes pointing out that North had more FC wickets than Hauritz at a better average. I think Hauritz has overtaken him in wickets now though.
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
From a national selection perspective, Dussey's innings today is probably totally irrelevant irrespective of how many runs he ends up with

Not really fair considering his outstanding career stats and the form of the incumbents
 

Ruckus

International Captain
From a national selection perspective, Dussey's innings today is probably totally irrelevant irrespective of how many runs he ends up with
Yeah thats exactly what I was thinking. There must be some serious tension in his family...
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
The Vics look to have a very light bowling attack, is Bryce injured at the moment? Hastings as part of of 3 man pace attack looks a little suspect to me. Could be some huge scores when NSW bat, Hussey had better get a big one now.
Bryce has been dropped, Dutchy given a chance. Supposedly he's still feeling some pain in his shoulder though (Holland), bowled OK last week for Frankston, tight but didn't really get too much spin.

Hastings is averaging 23 with the ball with 50 wickets, done a pretty good job. You've also got McDonald there as an option, reckon he's suited to the SCG in general too.
 

Ruckus

International Captain
Haha yeah, I remember making a post before the last Ashes pointing out that North had more FC wickets than Hauritz at a better average. I think Hauritz has overtaken him in wickets now though.
Do you know if North's lower average is deceptive in some sense? Because, as mediocre as Hauritz is, I honestly wouldn't put North above him from what I've seen. At the same time though, North does seem to do equally well/better than Hauritz when they are bowling in tandem in the same conditions - e.g. last series in India. So I'm kind of confused...
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Do you know if North's lower average is deceptive in some sense? Because, as mediocre as Hauritz is, I honestly wouldn't put North above him from what I've seen. At the same time though, North does seem to do equally well/better than Hauritz when they are bowling in tandem in the same conditions - e.g. last series in India. So I'm kind of confused...
North is a pretty good bowler for a batsman

Hauritz is not a great bowler for a specialist
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Do you know if North's lower average is deceptive in some sense? Because, as mediocre as Hauritz is, I honestly wouldn't put North above him from what I've seen. At the same time though, North does seem to do equally well/better than Hauritz when they are bowling in tandem in the same conditions - e.g. last series in India. So I'm kind of confused...
I wouldn't call it deceptive, but I will say that I think he'd average more if he was always used as a frontline bowler like Hauritz is. North's been bowling more and more for WA but he still only gets used when the conditions suit him or when the other options are exhausted - captains are compelled to bowl Hauritz a lot once he's picked. If it's not North's day he just doesn't get bowled - Hauritz has to keep coming back for more punishment.

I really don't think there's much in it between their bowling though. Hauritz puts a lot more of his body into his bowling and hence visibly looks more like a bowler, but North has a nice even if relaxed action and a good release.
 
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vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
North's a lot slower and gets more overspin; I remember a few Lancs on the forum saying that he did a better job for them with the ball than the bat.
 

howardj

International Coach
Your forgetting 25 with the ball and 50 odd with the bat.

Bingo.

Good man.

Smith is a batsman FFS!!! who bowls, and whose bowling will develop with more exposure.

People are making the same mistake with Smith as they made with Watson.

Think of him as a batsman who bowls.

Averageing 50 in FC cricket - geez, what more do people want for him to bat at six for Aus.

They sure don't demand the same high standards (i.e. an average of 50) for North.
 

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