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edit according to fox it would have been 44Yeah might not have been quite high 30’s but it certainly wasnt near the 60 he was averaging
edit according to fox it would have been 44Yeah might not have been quite high 30’s but it certainly wasnt near the 60 he was averaging
So, at his peak, if he wasn't dropped at all, he would have averaged 44? It's definitely interesting, but I don't know if that's really a great metric. You expect the average player to get dropped to some extent. Maybe a 5 year rolling mean/median would provide a more realistic measure of how the extra luck aided marnus's pick. Like I was saying above, even when marnus was lucky, he had a habit of going on after being given a chance and getting a massive score.edit according to fox it would have been 44
Yeah I agree still had to score the runs and you can’t expect every catch to be taken but it probably inflated beliefs of the player he isSo, at his peak, if he wasn't dropped at all, he would have averaged 44? It's definitely interesting, but I don't know if that's really a great metric. You expect the average player to get dropped to some extent. Maybe a 5 year rolling mean/median would provide a more realistic measure of how the extra luck aided marnus's pick. Like I was saying above, even when marnus was lucky, he had a habit of going on after being given a chance and getting a massive score.
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Like I said before, rahane was given nearly as many reprieves as marnus in the period used in this image (07-oct-2018 to 16-jan-2022), but in that period rahane averaged 35 while marnus averaged 57. Stokes, who had the 3rd most reprieves on that list in the period, averaged 40, 17 less than marnus. Going off the first chance or true average you gave above, marnus with no luck would still be outperforming rahane and stokes with all the luck they got.
TLDR: "Luck" doesn't account for all of marnus's success, and if your going to make a point like this alot more needs to be included. Just a quick example, for most of the period where rahane was getting dropped, away batting averages globally dropped everywhere bar NZ and SL, and india started juicing up their home decks, so rahane was probably playing in much tougher conditions than marnus (don't have adjusted averages to prove this). So maybe zero luck, peak marnus outperforming rahane will all his "luck" is just a factor of better batting conditions?
It's not exactly bs, it's probably accurate. But the part that goes unsaid there is that EVERY batsman's average goes down if you do that to them, not just Marnus'. But I'm pretty sure his went down more than mostThe second part of that is bs. During that lucky period rahane was being dropped as much as marnus and averaging half of what he does. Marnus was lucky, but it wasn't Henry nicholls (ohh, I'm not making runs for ages then getting dropped twice/three times to make a hundred) areas either.
Me too. Am I right in thinking he shouts "Wait on" but then starts running anyway?Just seen the KW run out.
Oh dear...
Did similar. I assumed the pitch had flattened out given that Hazlewood for the first time in his life was looking like a half decent bat.Saw the first session and went to bed. That last Aussie partnership only scored 66 less than NZ entire innings.
Thought I'd check some numbers.But he hasn't dropped off at fc level AFAIK? Between our last India tour and the Ashes in England (Middle of his current form slump) he went over to Glamorgan and made runs for fun. Even when he went back to shield cricket for a round before this series he was able to grind out some runs despite looking nowhere near his best.
He was helped in that game you mention when England had to bowl Moeen and Root for a while when it was otherwise dark. To be honest, what is happening now for him is a correcting. If he ended up with a test average of around 45, that's where he's at for me. Indeed his FC average is around that, including his test numbers.Thought I'd check some numbers.
His average in Tests in the last 12 months is 31, helped by that ton at Old Trafford (which was important at the time). Since then he averages 21.
He averaged 71 at Glamorgan in 5 FC games last season, but that was helped by a 170 not out which he scored in the 2nd innings when his team were already 130 ahead.
He's played 2 FC Matches for Queensland in this Sheffield Shield and averages 26.
The ton he got at Old Trafford was noteworthy as Aus were struggling and without it, might have got beaten despite the weather. But since then he's clearly in a hole.
Saw the first session and went to bed. That last Aussie partnership only scored 66 less than NZ entire innings.
I saw about 30 minutes the night before, including an over from Henry to Green (when on less than ten) in which Green looked absolutely village. Switched off then, obviously NZ not able to take advantage and the usual collapse to Australia has followed.Me too. Am I right in thinking he shouts "Wait on" but then starts running anyway?
Did similar. I assumed the pitch had flattened out given that Hazlewood for the first time in his life was looking like a half decent bat.
Why didn't Aus enforce the follow on? Did they not realise there was the opportunity for not one but potentially two days of extra golf? Crazy guys, got their priorities all wrong.
No-one, unless they wanted throw McSweeney in, though he's not ready and might never be.Who would even replace Marnus? Renshaw was being ripped on a couple of months ago. Is he looking better through absence?
Looking pretty good so far nglPredictions
We take early wickets with Henry and O'Rourke outstanding to leave Aus 60/4. Both go down injured as Cam Green fulfils his talent with 220*. Australia finish on 485. With these bowling injuries the 2 remaining seamers then play all of our tests for next 12 months.
When batting Young has double failures as we lose by 225 runs. He is replaced by Rachin for the 2nd test with Nicholls back in the middle order. Nicholls scores a gutsy 50 in our innings' defeat thus staying in the test team for the next 3 years. When Conway returns from injury Ravindra is left out of the test side for 2-3 years to develop his game