***Official*** Australia in South Africa + South Africa in Australia 2016/17

[SeamUp]

Dwaine Pretorius picked to replace Dale Steyn.

Interesting. Basically said to Viljoen/De Lange your wickets mean nothing. Which I'm not too unhappy about to be honest.

 

[vicleggie]

That's kinda dire, even for his standards.

Also why are they saying they want to know about his background while live on air? Find out yourselves then give the info to the viewers maybe?

Na it was very complementary. Ian Healy was saying "I want to know everything about this young man. Who he played for, when he started bowling fast, who his idols are etc". Chappell said "if you want to find out when he started bowling fast, just ask the people in his village, they'll tell you"

 

[Marius]

Dwaine Pretorius picked to replace Dale Steyn.

Interesting. Basically said to Viljoen/De Lange your wickets mean nothing. Which I'm not too unhappy about to be honest.

Not really a like-for-like swap though.

But think this shows Pretorius is close to a Test call-up.

 

[Marius]

Na it was very complementary. Ian Healy was saying "I want to know everything about this young man. Who he played for, when he started bowling fast, who his idols are etc". Chappell said "if you want to find out when he started bowling fast, just ask the people in his village, they'll tell you"

In that context, it sounds pretty bad.

 

[SeamUp]

The thing is, that sort of comment is typical Chappelli.

It's not derogatory , it's actually a compliment to how he probably stood out in his village/community/school etc

Sure, he should do his homework before making comments like that because the only thing he got wrong , was he stereotyped.

 

[OverratedSanity]

What did he say?

What did Chappell say?

Said something like "the people from Rabada's village where he grew up in might know how fast he used to bowl when he was younger" or something to that effect.

It came off really poorly on air imo.

 

[harsh.ag]

Dwaine Pretorius picked to replace Dale Steyn.

Interesting. Basically said to Viljoen/De Lange your wickets mean nothing. Which I'm not too unhappy about to be honest.

Pretorius is an all-rounder though. Not exactly comparable to Hardus and De Lange.

 

[Zinzan]

lol that village comment was nothing. People trying to read controversy where there isn't any.

Yup, sounds like a non-event that some people are desperately trying to be outraged by if the way seam-up described it was accurate.

 

[SeamUp]

Not really a like-for-like swap though.

But think this shows Pretorius is close to a Test call-up.

I think the selection has got a lot to do with the two venues coming up. Don't think they require pace through the air like a MCG/scg/Gabba/Adelaide in the day would require.

 

[TT Boy]

Dwaine Pretorius picked to replace Dale Steyn.

Interesting. Basically said to Viljoen/De Lange your wickets mean nothing. Which I'm not too unhappy about to be honest.

Or we already have two bowlers who can bowl 145kph in the squad, so we are well covered there. Pretorius can also act as cover for Vernon and they may want to go into the Adelaide test with four seamers, two of whom can really bat.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Na it was very complementary. Ian Healy was saying "I want to know everything about this young man. Who he played for, when he started bowling fast, who his idols are etc". Chappell said "if you want to find out when he started bowling fast, just ask the people in his village, they'll tell you"

There's something a little problematic about making the assumption that he grew up in a village though.

Whether his intentions were, you don't make a comment like that on air when you're live. At the very least it shows how poorly he's done his homework. At worst, people will point to his comment as a racial stereotype. Either way, it was extremely dumb.

 

[Zinzan]

Speaking of which, whatever happened to De Lange. I often used to think if he was a Kiwi, he'd hardly miss a match.

 

[Marius]

Or we already have two bowlers who can bowl 145kph in the squad, so we are well covered there. Pretorius can also act as cover for Vernon and they may want to go into the Adelaide test with four seamers, two of whom can really bat.

Wonder what the odds of are in XI of:

Elgar
Bavuma
Amla
JP
Faf
QDK
Pretorius
Vern
Maharaj
Rabada
Abbott/Morkel

 

[SeamUp]

Or we already have two bowlers who can bowl 145kph in the squad, so we are well covered there. Pretorius can also act as cover for Vernon and they may want to go into the Adelaide test with four seamers, two of whom can really bat.

See above comments on conditions. Which probably turns a Pretorius into more of a danger with the ball so not really a work-horse in those conditions.

I think it's more perceived not replacing strike bowler with strike bowler. But if you look into it deeper, you can see why they did it like you say.

 

[Zinzan]

There's something a little problematic about making the assumption that he grew up in a village though.

Whether his intentions were, you don't make a comment like that on air when you're live. At the very least it shows how poorly he's done his homework. At worst, people will point to his comment as a racial stereotype. Either way, it was extremely dumb.

Ah... turn it up seriously. I swear people go out of their way almost looking for things to be offended by these days.

We just had a cracking Test match with an incredible display of team unity from SA against all odds, surely a side comment that insignificant isn't going to be a thing is it?

 

[TheJediBrah]

There's something a little problematic about making the assumption that he grew up in a village though.

Whether his intentions were, you don't make a comment like that on air when you're live. At the very least it shows how poorly he's done his homework. At worst, people will point to his comment as a racial stereotype. Either way, it was extremely dumb.

It shows a lot about the current political climate that just being a dumbass makes people think you're racist

"Village" can mean anything, doesn't literally have to mean a couple of mud huts in the middle of a savannah lead by a shaman.

Ah... turn it up seriously. I swear people go out of their way almost looking for things to be offended by these days.

We just had a cracking Test match with an incredible display of team unity from SA against all odds, surely a side comment that insignificant isn't going to be a thing is it?

They actually, genuinely do. Its just the way the world is right now. It's baffling how often this happens.

 

[StephenZA]

Dwaine Pretorius picked to replace Dale Steyn.

Interesting. Basically said to Viljoen/De Lange your wickets mean nothing. Which I'm not too unhappy about to be honest.

I am surprised they replaced Steyn and it makes sense they are trying to cover the all-rounder position, we already have 2 cover seamers. Olivier would have to be picked if it was a seam bowler replacement. Viljoen and De Lange are not my favourites.

 

[SeamUp]

Speaking of which, whatever happened to De Lange. I often used to think if he was a Kiwi, he'd hardly miss a match.

Injury, Injury. Injury.

Then bowling pace while being erratic.

I also think he started bowling shorter of a length and lost one of his greatest strengths in targeting the stumps.

It's nice having two 150kph bowlers like him and Viljoen testing your domestic batsman though at least. It does separate men from the boys to a certain extent.

 

[Zinzan]

Is Morkel actually fit?

 

[vicleggie]

Fwiw people are blowing up on twitter about it. One person insinuated people in Johannesburg will/should shoot chappelli next time he goes there. Ah, bless their fragile hearts