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**Official** Australia in India Thread

Swervy

Swervy

International Captain
Richard said:
Suit yourself - someone else might.
In my view it is quite insane if you're willing to base more on this single innings, just because it was the most recent and the favoured player is a youngster, rather than the fact that Lehmann has gone just about everywhere and conquered some of the hardest conditions you can ask a modern cricketer to play in, relative to Clarke who has achieved next-to-nothing in a shortish career to date; he's not even been good enough to average 40 on the flat decks in Australia. Lehmann, meanwhile, has averaged in the early 50s on them and higher still on the far tougher wickets of Headingley.
And no, of course I didn't watch the 2 days - not that I'd especially want to.
I really hope Clarke gets torn to pieces in the rest of the series, just for the sheer overhype of a player whose achievements are moderate before this single innings.
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some players rise to the occasion, he got his highest first class score ever in his debut test innings, with Australia in a bit of bother...shows a lot about his temprement.

The Aussie selectors obviously look beyond first class averages when evaluating whether a player is of test standard. For what I have seen of the guy batting, he impresses me,and he has to get credit for what would appear to be a really great hundred in tricky conditions.

We have gone over this before though..first class averages dont always give a true indication of how a player will do in tests. As I say,some players thrive in the environment with added pressure and responsibilty (see Botham,Willis,Gower and plenty of others). Your comments Richard about how you which he gets 'torn to pieces' smacks of somebody who is disapointed that their own theory about someone hasnt panned out the way they thought it would,a rather childish reaction infact.

If he plays badly in the next few games,he will get torn to pieces,however if he plays well,surely he deserves the credit he no doubt will get from those of us who appear to understand the background things of the game more than you appear to do (ie. pretty much all of us on this forum)
 
Jono

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Mister Wright said:
60-40? Are you kidding. Perhaps if India were 1-150, but not 6 down. I would say it is more like Australia 90-10.

I wouldn't be getting too down if I were an Indian supporter. Just go back to 2001 India was beaten in close to 3 days, then were almost out of it and it took a super-human effort to get it back in the 2nd match, then again to win the 3rd.

India can take a few positives from the match - Tendulkar is to come back, Pathan & Turbonator are bowling well. Laxman looks in good touch, Patel seems to be keeping quite well.

Australia got lucky with Clarke, their luck will run out. India just have to make sure they can lay the big punches when Australia go a little off.
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I was referring to the close of day 1. :mellow:
 
maxpower

maxpower

U19 Cricketer
this seems pretty much like the first test from the last tour of IND, where AUS swept the first test and than it all turned around. Who knows what will happen in the next 3 days even, but for now IND's a$$ is getting kicked all over. Mcgrath is back baby..
 
aussie_beater

aussie_beater

State Vice-Captain
I would say India cannot save follow on from here. Now the question is, should Australia enforce the follow on if somehow India score another 100 runs ? I would say that given the condition of the wicket where its expected to deteriorate on day 4 and 5, Australia would be better placed if they rack up some runs after bowling India out and then put India in on the 4th innings if the first innings lead is just about 200 plus runs. Making India follow on may work in that situation, but it may also end up with India digging in for a better part of 2 days to leave Australia to chase on the 5th day which may not be very easy.
 
Arjun

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
aussie_beater said:
I would say India cannot save follow on from here. Now the question is, should Australia enforce the follow on if somehow India score another 100 runs ? I would say that given the condition of the wicket where its expected to deteriorate on day 4 and 5, Australia would be better placed if they rack up some runs after bowling India out and then put India in on the 4th innings if the first innings lead is just about 200 plus runs. Making India follow on may work in that situation, but it may also end up with India digging in for a better part of 2 days to leave Australia to chase on the 5th day which may not be very easy.
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There is always the second innings...and that can determine whether the Indian batting side is really as good as experts say, or just another overloaded, overpriced and ordinary lot.
 
A

Anil

Hall of Fame Member
aussie_beater said:
I would say India cannot save follow on from here. Now the question is, should Australia enforce the follow on if somehow India score another 100 runs ? I would say that given the condition of the wicket where its expected to deteriorate on day 4 and 5, Australia would be better placed if they rack up some runs after bowling India out and then put India in on the 4th innings if the first innings lead is just about 200 plus runs. Making India follow on may work in that situation, but it may also end up with India digging in for a better part of 2 days to leave Australia to chase on the 5th day which may not be very easy.
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we would need to see another eden gardens miracle to win this one...and the very reason why they are called miracles is that they don't happen all that often.... :)

however if the raingods smile on india enough.... :D
 
biased indian

biased indian

International Coach
There is no threat of rain upto now
we will see the result before tea on 4th day and if not u can be sure that miracles do happen twice :)
 
aussie_beater

aussie_beater

State Vice-Captain
Anil said:
we would need to see another eden gardens miracle to win this one...and the very reason why they are called miracles is that they don't happen all that often.... :)

however if the raingods smile on india enough.... :D
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Yeah, the Eden Gardens thing was a miracle, but it is always going to be at the back of the mind for Indian fans, however improabable it is, when you look at similar scenarios. But for Indian batting to redeem itself in the second innings in this match would be even tougher because the pitch is going to start becoming trickier as time goes.....that was not the case in Eden Gardens in 2001.
 
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Anil

Hall of Fame Member
aussie_beater said:
Yeah, the Eden Gardens thing was a miracle, but it is always going to be at the back of the mind for Indian fans, however improabable it is, when you look at similar scenarios. But for Indian batting to redeem itself in the second innings in this match would be even tougher because the pitch is going to start becoming trickier as time goes.....that was not the case in Eden Gardens in 2001.
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yeah it's a lost cause....this test.....and biased indian, that was a very baaad thing to do, to give us all a glimmer of a hope and then take it away just like that....sadistic, that's what it is....
:)
 
marc71178

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Mr Casson said:
Anyway, I'm going to forget anything I ever said about the selectors. They timed Clarke's entry perfectly.
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Erm how exactly?

Did they deliberately injure Ponting?
 
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