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**Official** Australia in India Thread

Waughney

International Debutant
Slow Love™ said:
Hi, BRS - my feelings are a little mixed. I'm extremely happy that the Aussies have got this monkey off their back, but truth be told, up to this point, it hasn't really been much of a series. It seems that much of this tour has been treating the opposition and the conditions with a little more respect, and some extensive preparation and strategy. Over the last few decades, there've certainly been much inferior Indian sides to this one that capable Aussie sides haven't managed to beat, yet there's no doubt that this side was absolutely nowhere near it's best. The last two series between these two sides were such epics that we probably got a little spoiled, and as a result, for me at least, there's the slightest aftertaste of letdown. Probably the least expected outcome here for me was the lack of spirit from the Indians, because that's been their most amazing feature against the Aussies in recent times.

I think that at it's core, the Indian side is a strong one, even if I haven't really thought they were the number 2 side in the world as many have claimed. The Aussies have done really well, applied themselves (and often grafted) as well as playing some brilliant cricket. The Indians' strengths and weaknesses seemed to change this time around: their bowlers actually acquitted themselves reasonably well, while the bats - well, there's not much to be said, considering that Sehwag is the only centurian (and the only bat to show real form) over the series for them.

Even though Gilly captained the Aussies to this victory, Ponting's done a much better job than many predicted (including myself) at distinguishing this side from his predecessor Waugh's. To my eye, this side doesn't demonstrate the same miles-ahead superiority that Waugh's did in it's heyday, but it's a very solid outfit that's perhaps a little more flexible in terms of how it approaches situations, particularly when they're struggling (Hayden and Langer were probably the exception to this rule, in that they appeared to pay no attention to the script). Martyn and Katich have, in particular provided great balance to the more cavalier players in the batting lineup. Kasprowicz has fit in superbly, and it feels like he should have been a part of this side for a lot longer than he has (in terms of his last stint, that is). Clarke's defied the critics and demonstrated that sometimes real talent provides legitimate excitement among those that know the game, first-class averages be damned.

I would have loved to see these sides go toe-to-toe at their best though, and we certainly didn't get that. Hopefully the Indians can put up more of a contest in the final test, although I still would love to see a 3-0 scoreline, just for posterity. :)

I do think that some people are being a little hard on some Indian supporters, because truth be told, I think we all know that the Aussies are a stronger side than India, and can stomach the loss of a Ponting much better than India can stomach the loss of a Tendulkar, a Ganguly or a Harbhajan.

And IMO, India should have stuck with Yuvaraj, uh, Yuvraj. :p
To be honest the series has been what I expected it to be, good, but definitely not an epic one.

There has been much critisism of the more defensive approach to the series (especially on the half of Keith Stackpole), but (even though I am a supporter of Waugh's captaining techniques) I thought they were right. In the Australia home series, the Aussies showed little felxibility in their plans and sometimes that let certain partnerships roll on and on. This series plan (and it's flexibility) helped them to fight back and maintain dominance at certain times.

It has been great to see the emergence of Clarke, the rise and rise of Martyn and the return of Kasprowicz. Hopefully Martyn can continue to play as well in all conditions to finally to get those critics off his back.

As for Yuvraj's non inclusion (I mean Yuvaraj) I'm still undecided over what I think should've happened. However, he should be included in Mumbai (at the expense of Chopra), to gain a spot for the future and much needed experience.


Well done Australia :D
 

Neil Pickup

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broncoman said:
funny how Australian fans were saying the same thing about Harmison 2 years ago and now hes one of the worlds best bowlers..
and who are you to doubt the Australian selectors neil, they have done a pretty fair job in recent times of spotting talent...
Pull your head in....
Harmo never got mutilated for ten an over repeatedly though, did he?
 

Simon

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has Tait bowled 7 wides in a row?
i seem to recall Englands last tour here Harmison couldnt land the ball on the pitch at Lilac Hill, i think he was aiming for the WACA....
 

Simon

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Jono said:
Are we honestly comparing Tait to Harmison?
not bowling abilities, but im using Harmisons progress since playing in Australia to where hes at now as an example to show Tait wont neccisarily be smashed all around the park every game for the rest of his career just because hes had a couple of expensive outings early in his career....
 

Neil Pickup

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Lol, I know, but by 'eck, they weren't just expensive!

And it was Somerset (Richard Johnson!) and Essex doing the bludgeoning
 

ReallyCrazy

Banned
Congratulations to Australia and all the Australian supporters. You guys deserved to win. No excuses, Australia has been the superior side throughout and India deserved to lose the way they did. At the beginning, I agree that I was talking this series up saying Australi were gonna lose, Warne was gonna get milked and so on. That was all in jest.

Adam Gilchrist is one of my fav players now and I'm happy about that :)
 

viktor

State Vice-Captain
Congratulations to Australia!! great win guys!
I was hoping the Indians would show some spirit an dhang around till tomorrow but that didn't happen. anyway, congrats
 

anzac

International Debutant
congrads lads...............what an emphatic statement to make in response to all those doubters who were ready to announce the decline of AUS dominance.........

the world no2 spot seems u for grabs - ENG here's your chance to make a case for yourself.............

bring on The Ashes...............

I must admit I am really very surprised and disappointed to see how much batting talent IND have at their disposal, and yet how much they rely upon the presence of Tendulkar & Ganguly............................what a HUUUUUGE Achillies heel!!!!!!!!
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Mr Casson said:
Shouji :)

I have a fair few things to say, so I'll just say them in one post.

Mister Wright, I don't mean to sound all 'told-you-so', but has your opinion of Clarke changed at all because of this series? Just curious.
No. I have always said that Clarke is a quality batsman and will be in Australia's future. However, I did say he wasn't ready and it would likely be at the detriment of Australian cricket if he was selected (I was wrong about that, but others did say that also Ged). And I will stand by my belief that other players deserved a spot ahead of him. Clarke should send a Christmas Card to every journalist in N.S.W.
 

Mister Wright

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Slow Love™ said:
Hi, BRS - my feelings are a little mixed. I'm extremely happy that the Aussies have got this monkey off their back, but truth be told, up to this point, it hasn't really been much of a series. It seems that much of this tour has been treating the opposition and the conditions with a little more respect, and some extensive preparation and strategy. Over the last few decades, there've certainly been much inferior Indian sides to this one that capable Aussie sides haven't managed to beat, yet there's no doubt that this side was absolutely nowhere near it's best. The last two series between these two sides were such epics that we probably got a little spoiled, and as a result, for me at least, there's the slightest aftertaste of letdown. Probably the least expected outcome here for me was the lack of spirit from the Indians, because that's been their most amazing feature against the Aussies in recent times.

I think that at it's core, the Indian side is a strong one, even if I haven't really thought they were the number 2 side in the world as many have claimed. The Aussies have done really well, applied themselves (and often grafted) as well as playing some brilliant cricket. The Indians' strengths and weaknesses seemed to change this time around: their bowlers actually acquitted themselves reasonably well, while the bats - well, there's not much to be said, considering that Sehwag is the only centurian (and the only bat to show real form) over the series for them.

Even though Gilly captained the Aussies to this victory, Ponting's done a much better job than many predicted (including myself) at distinguishing this side from his predecessor Waugh's. To my eye, this side doesn't demonstrate the same miles-ahead superiority that Waugh's did in it's heyday, but it's a very solid outfit that's perhaps a little more flexible in terms of how it approaches situations, particularly when they're struggling (Hayden and Langer were probably the exception to this rule, in that they appeared to pay no attention to the script). Martyn and Katich have, in particular provided great balance to the more cavalier players in the batting lineup. Kasprowicz has fit in superbly, and it feels like he should have been a part of this side for a lot longer than he has (in terms of his last stint, that is). Clarke's defied the critics and demonstrated that sometimes real talent provides legitimate excitement among those that know the game, first-class averages be damned.

I would have loved to see these sides go toe-to-toe at their best though, and we certainly didn't get that. Hopefully the Indians can put up more of a contest in the final test, although I still would love to see a 3-0 scoreline, just for posterity. :)

I do think that some people are being a little hard on some Indian supporters, because truth be told, I think we all know that the Aussies are a stronger side than India, and can stomach the loss of a Ponting much better than India can stomach the loss of a Tendulkar, a Ganguly or a Harbhajan.

And IMO, India should have stuck with Yuvaraj, uh, Yuvraj. :p
Agree. This series has been a real let down. The last series between India & Australia really re-ignited my love of Test Cricket. I was sick of Australia just pounding opponents within 3 days. I will take with me to the day I die the partnership between Dravid & Laxman. If I ever see a better partnership in test cricket I will be a happy man, because that will be one all-mighty partnership.
 

NikhilN

International Regular
I really thought when Australia dec, this was gonna end in a draw...but again...the Indian batting fails
 

Bapu Rao Swami

U19 12th Man
Congrats to the Aussies for reclaiming the Border-Gavaskar trophy from our grasp. India was privileged to play hosts to such a wonderful set of cricketers from down under. You deserve a long round of applause.
Once again hearty congrats to the Aussie cricketers, Buchanan and all the other support staff.

India - Well.....It is not the best time to discuss about it when the mind is agitated. It was a black Thursday in Indian cricket the way the cricketers collapsed like bricks against the sustained aggression of the Aussies.

We need to play for pride at Mumbai and let us hope we can pull one back.

--BRS (Gutted by the lack of pride in the Indian ranks)
 

howardj

International Coach
The entire series has been decidedly underwhelming. There's really been nil resolve from the Indian team. For instance, Laxman has batted like a millionaire the whole series. His careless shot in the first innings of this Test was a metaphor for the lack of application shown by India.

In the end though, as infuriating as they can sometimes be, Warne and McGrath transform this Austalian team from a competent side (as they were last summer) to one that is nigh unbeatable. When they werent in the team last summer, I think we got a glimpse at our future.
 

Bapu Rao Swami

U19 12th Man
howardj said:
The entire series has been decidedly underwhelming. There's really been nil resolve from the Indian team. For instance, Laxman has batted like a millionaire the whole series. His careless shot in the first innings of this Test was a metaphor for the lack of application shown by India.

In the end though, as infuriating as they can sometimes be, Warne and McGrath transform this Austalian team from a competent side (as they were last summer) to one that is nigh unbeatable. When they werent in the team last summer, I think we got a glimpse at our future.

So true, nevertheless I feel Damien Martyn and Glenn 'Pidge' Mcgraa (both of 'em in particular) have been India's nemesis in this series.
 

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