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*Official* Australia in India - ODIs

Sir Alex

Banned
Ojha has been quite ridiculosly sidelined despite having made a solid ODI debut against the best in the business like Sri Lanka. It is a fact that most batsmen in limited overs cricket do not find left arm spinners easy. I hope he gets the nod in tomoorow's mathc.
 

asty80

School Boy/Girl Captain
Cant agree with this reasoning. Its still AUS - the best team in the world, surely IND players would see this weakened AUS team has great chance to topple them, just like what South Africa did recently.

AUS just played the better cricket & it is not first time this has happened either. Back in 2003 a similar second string AUS bowling attack toppled IND at home.
I see your point. But the Indian psyche (not all the players , mind you) is that they want to hammer the bowlers and have an 'easy' victory. Not for them the grit, the fight, the sweat and the blood. Why do you think they keep going back to Dravid, who is the master at those sort of fights.

Dravid, Dhoni and Tendulkar belong to the gritty era while Sehwag, Yuvraj and Raina are the flashy guys.
 

R_D

International Debutant
I think he's been your best bowler this series by some margin tbh.

Welcome notorious. I'm expecting B.I.G things from you.

<Takes hat, leaves>
Thats not that hard to do when you have Praveen, Nehra etc bowling.
Harbhajan Singh (India) 6 60.0 1 271 8 2/23 33.87 4.51 45.0

Those figures are ok i guess but I'd like to see an attacking spinner in the Indian ODI team.. who can actually take wickets and Harbhjan has been playing like a stock bowler for most of his ODI career. Thats always been my problem with Bhajji.. always resorts to darting the bowls in after he gets hit for a boundary or 2. Has great fighting spirit when batting but don't what happens when he's bowling.
 

R_D

International Debutant
Ojha has been quite ridiculosly sidelined despite having made a solid ODI debut against the best in the business like Sri Lanka. It is a fact that most batsmen in limited overs cricket do not find left arm spinners easy. I hope he gets the nod in tomoorow's mathc.
He's not even in the squad so no chance of him playing thats for sure.
I'd like to see both of Amit Mishra and Harbhajan Singh play, I don't really understand Dhoni's fascination with playing 3 Pace bowlers all the time when you know you have a better bowler in Amit Mishra on the bench. If he must play 3 Pacers than let R Jadeja sit out the match. Let him develop his game in domestic scene and than pick him in the team.
There aren't going to be too many matches where India's going to collapse like last match and it seems that Jadeja can only bat in top 4 and there's no way he's getting in the top 4 of ODI team right now. He's wasted at current position.
 

morgieb

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Can't believe we beat India at their home minus 10 players (or something like that). Epic effort IMO.
 

stephen

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Can't believe we beat India at their home minus 10 players (or something like that). Epic effort IMO.
Yeah it's top stuff.

Still Dougy has to be in our standard ODI XI now.

First choice lineup IMO:

Watson
Haddin
Ponting
Clarke
Hussey
Ferguson
Hopes
Johnson
Lee
Hauritz
Bollinger

Bracken
Paine
Siddle
White
 

NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
Yeah it's top stuff.

Still Dougy has to be in our standard ODI XI now.

First choice lineup IMO:

Watson
Haddin
Ponting
Clarke
Hussey
Ferguson
Hopes
Johnson
Lee
Hauritz
Bollinger

Bracken
Paine
Siddle
White
Hard to argue with that especially if you add Marsh to the squad.
 

stephen

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Well really I'd say Paine is the back up opener, but in a squad of 16 I'd have him. Didn't really think too hard about the reserves tbh.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Yeah it's top stuff.

Still Dougy has to be in our standard ODI XI now.

First choice lineup IMO:

Watson
Haddin
Ponting
Clarke
Hussey
Ferguson
Hopes
Johnson
Lee
Hauritz
Bollinger

Bracken
Paine
Siddle
White
Would start White over Ferguson given he basically replaces Symonds as the big hitting middle-order player.

Siddle vs Bollinger is interesting ATM. I'm leaning to sidvicious since he my favourite player in the world right now, but if Doug where to become a fixture it wont be an issue.
 

inbox24

International Debutant
Siddle's still very hit and miss, particuarly in the limited overs arena. Bollinger really hasn't put a foot wrong in any one dayers so far and if the selectors could see past the Sid fanboyism then they would realise a need to give Bollinger a chance at the minimum.

White is still a bit inconsistent compared to Ferguson, another person who hasn't put a foot wrong at all for an even longer period of time.

Hopes' value has decreased greatly since he was in the team mainly for his tightish 10 overs (considering the fact that he isn't a good finisher as Ferguson or anyone else).

Clarke should get one more shot in the OD team because the guy has used up all his 99 lives as vice captain. It will never happen but I'd like to see him dropped if he continues to fail after this latest injury setback.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Siddle's still very hit and miss, particuarly in the limited overs arena. Bollinger really hasn't put a foot wrong in any one dayers so far and if the selectors could see past the Sid fanboyism then they would realise a need to give Bollinger a chance at the minimum.
It not really Sid fanboysim though. Siddle definately has the tools to be a very good ODI bowler. Obviously Bollinger has gotten the better early success, but its not clear cut than Bollinger should play ahead of him in ODIs ATS at all. But very nice competition.

White is still a bit inconsistent compared to Ferguson, another person who hasn't put a foot wrong at all for an even longer period of time.
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White since the ODI series in ENG here has been just as consistent as Ferguson was between the tri-series in AUS up to when he got injured in the CT.

As i said White gives back the power htting in the middle order now that Symonds is gone & thats a important.

Hopes' value has decreased greatly since he was in the team mainly for his tightish 10 overs (considering the fact that he isn't a good finisher as Ferguson or anyone else).
Hopes position will never be safe. But the main reason for playing him is because Watson can't be relied on to give 10 quality overs in ODIs all the time. I dont mind having him the main XI - a good utility man.
 

Top_Cat

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As i said White gives back the power htting in the middle order now that Symonds is gone & thats a important.
Seriously, when has he actually done that? Every knock I've seen him play at 4 has been pretty circumspect, Michael Clarke-esque in general.
 
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aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Seriously, when has he actually done that? Every knock I've seen him play at 4 has been pretty circumspect, Michael Clarke-esque in general.
Nah man you forgetting what he did 5th ODI already?. Him in the last few months being able to bat up the order & some circumspect play to his game, is great for White. Since before i reckon most saw him as slogger (i did) who certainly felt him batting @ 4 was way too high for him in international cricket, so he has displayed some great versality in his batting.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Seriously, when has he actually done that? Every knock I've seen him play at 4 has been pretty circumspect, Michael Clarke-esque in general.
Perhaps that was because he was batting at 4. If you put him at 6 or 5, I think he is still the better hitter by some margin over Clarke... I am not too sure about blokes like Ferguson as I have not seen them much but if I were to pick an Aussie ODI side, this would be my XI:



Marsh
Watson
Ponting (c)
Hussey
White
Haddin (wk)
Hopes
Lee
Johnson
Hauritz
Bollinger



There is enough depth and enoug hitting power in the lower middle order and the bowling is awesome in terms of options coz you got White and Watson in the top 5 who can bowl quite a bit. May replace Hopes with a guy who can bowl some spin and bat well if possible. Not sure if Ferguson fits the category and I am still not sold on Voges.. What about David Hussey? Is there any spin bowling all rounder (bowling all rounder, not like White) in Australia? Marcus North?
 

NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
Is there any spin bowling all rounder (bowling all rounder, not like White) in Australia? Marcus North?
Clearly the man you are looking for is Jason Krejza. He's been batting as high as 7 recently for Tassie and has been bowling very tidy spells recently.
 

G.I.Joe

International Coach
You guys might as well pack up. I live 20 minutes from the stadium, and its been sprinkling non stop for the past 24+ hours. I'd be very surprised if theres any play today.
 

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