***Official*** Australia in India 2013 Short formats

[Daemon]

Just got back, hope I haven't missed too much discussion on the merits of the DRS and the selection of Vinay Kumar.

 

[Prince EWS]

You can see the square people there on the screen.

 

[Jono]

Why did that bloke have a gold pen at the cricket. Very keen to sign autographs in a classy manner.

 

[Jono]

Yuvraj still a hack against fast and bouncy bowling. I am surprised.

 

[Spikey]

i dont care if it's nightime put on some sunglasses Rad

 

[Jono]

Ah Jadeja. You bring so much hate on yourself with innings like that.

 

[Stapel]

What does it tell us when The Aussies will end up with 40 overs of pace bowling and only 10 overs of spin? Bailey has a few options, but so far Doherty has 9, Voges has 1 and Maxwell has had none.

 

[Contra]

Can't afford to waste starts really, Rohit, Raina and Kohli all getting out at the wrong time.

 

[Jono]

Can't afford to waste starts really, Rohit, Raina and Kohli all getting out at the wrong time.

Yeah exactly.

Raina's in particular was a disgrace. Just lost the plot.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Yuvraj ffs is playing the short ball THAT difficult. Gets away with it in t20 because he swings and hopes at everything. Maybe that's the way to go against short ball in odis too tbh... He looks okay when pulling short balls, but when he attempts to defend, deary me... Completely hopeless

 

[Manee]

Can't afford to waste starts really, Rohit, Raina and Kohli all getting out at the wrong time.

I think this and the bowling of Vinay/Ishant were the two main issues. Cannot fault Dhawan, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Jadeja too much. You don't always get a start; if you do get a start though, you must make the most of it.

 

[harsh.ag]

I think this and the bowling of Vinay/Ishant were the two main issues. Cannot fault Dhawan, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Jadeja too much. You don't always get a start; if you do get a start though, you must make the most of it.

?? The guys making 30-40 runs should be criticized more than the ones getting out cheaply? Is is the 90s again - Let's blame Sachin for getting out at 62, and ruining our run chase..

 

[Arjun]

Can't excuse the bowling. It's inexplicably poor, even on a flat deck. India's batting is by no means weak, but the serious pace of Mitch, the smart swing of Clint and smart bowling plans have pinned the Indians down, and eventually, with a 300+ score to chase, toppled them. The bowling needs to be fixed, sooner than later. The Aussies have shown how to sustain bowling on a flat deck. Will the Indians take note?

 

[Manee]

?? The guys making 30-40 runs should be criticized more than the ones getting out cheaply? Is is the 90s again - Let's blame Sachin for getting out at 62, and ruining our run chase..

Your example assumes one batsmen performing more consistently well than the others. That batsmen cannot be criticized. Dhawan and Dhoni are consistent run-scorers and Yuvraj won our last match. Therefore, such an example is inappropriate.

 

[Manee]

Can't excuse the bowling. It's inexplicably poor, even on a flat deck. India's batting is by no means weak, but the serious pace of Mitch, the smart swing of Clint and smart bowling plans have pinned the Indians down, and eventually, with a 300+ score to chase, toppled them. The bowling needs to be fixed, sooner than later. The Aussies have shown how to sustain bowling on a flat deck. Will the Indians take note?

Australia's bowling was good (or even, excellent) but I think we could have chased 250-270. The pressure of a big target caused us to fall so very short.

 

[Arjun]

Australia's bowling was good (or even, excellent) but I think we could have chased 250-270. The pressure of a big target caused us to fall so very short.

You can't really fix the batting any more than this. The chase was high, and they had to take risks against an attack too dangerous for that.

The bowling, though, was poor. Ishant was the only one with some resources, but he was bowling slow, short and wide, utter rubbish that was deservedly spanked all around. The Kumars were bowling well, but were so short of power that they were taken apart when the ball got old. Both frontline spinners were poor- Jadeja struggled to take wickets, while Ashwin leaked runs and merely salvaged two- Yuvraj Singh was a lot better than either, and that's saying something.

While one spinner should sit out for Mishra, pace is a genuine concern if more flat strips are prepared- but JDU is definitely an upgrade over Ishant, on form. He uses the short ball smartly, but on a belter, he'll struggle. These batsmen have grown up against faster blokes.

 

[Manee]

You can't really fix the batting any more than this. The chase was high, and they had to take risks against an attack too dangerous for that.

I really think Jadeja is the future of our team in all formats. But is he currently good enough to bat at seven? He looked pretty ordinary today.

 

[TheJediBrah]

What does it tell us when The Aussies will end up with 40 overs of pace bowling and only 10 overs of spin? Bailey has a few options, but so far Doherty has 9, Voges has 1 and Maxwell has had none.

Maxwell isn't really anything special with the ball. Voges can be just as useful. Even Finch can keep the runs down.

?? The guys making 30-40 runs should be criticized more than the ones getting out cheaply? Is is the 90s again - Let's blame Sachin for getting out at 62, and ruining our run chase..

Well depends on the pitch. If it's a hard pitch to get started on then you can criticize the guys getting in then throwing it away. Anyone can get a good ball when they first get started.

 

[Prince EWS]

I really think Jadeja is the future of our team in all formats. But is he currently good enough to bat at seven? He looked pretty ordinary today.

I think he's pretty unsuited to the batting role he's got; you'd get more use out of him picking up singles throughout the middle overs and then letting the hitters come in later. I think he could be really good at that role in Indian conditions. The problem you've got though is that the bowling unit is poor so you need quick-scoring right the way through your innings anyway to make up for it. You don't really need Jadeja coming in at 5 and scoring 45 (60) when you're chasing 300 or unlikely to defend any less than 300.

 

[Manee]

I think he's pretty unsuited to the batting role he's got; you'd get more use out of him picking up singles throughout the middle orders and then letting the hitters come in later. I think he could be really good at that role in Indian conditions. The problem you've got though is that the bowling unit is poor so you need quick-scoring right the way through your innings anyway to make up for it. You don't really need Jadeja coming in at 5 and scoring 45 (60) when you're chasing 300 or unlikely to defend any less than 300.

Good point. I don't think we need quick scoring throughout the innings though. We can easily pick up 90 in the final ten overs if we have wickets in hand and the right men (i.e. any of the top seven but Jadeja) at the crease. I think you've made an excellent call on where Jadeja should bat.