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***Official*** Australia in India 2012/13

Prince EWS

Prince EWS

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Jono said:
Bowling to expecations is 450+.

They have exceeded expectations.

Can't think of any reasomable Indian who saw this lineup and thought they'd have AUstralia 5-150 and less than 400 (if that occurs).
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Yeah but it's not about the lineup.

They've bowled poorly. That's largely because they're not very good bowlers, but it doesn't change that fact. They've bowled poorly because they're ****house. Expectations which are based on the quality of the bowling lineup are irrelevant; you're squaring the issue. You can't just blame the batting for losing the game because you know you have a **** bowling lineup; the **** bowling lineup is the crux of the issue.
 
Teja.

Teja.

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SS, There's no either/or situation here. We don't have Shane ****ing Warne waiting in the wings

Ojha should definitely be playing but so should Ashwin.
 
Jono

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Prince EWS said:
Yeah but it's not about the lineup.

They've bowled poorly. That's largely because they're not very good bowlers, but it doesn't change that fact. They've bowled poorly because they're ****house. Expectations which are based on the quality of the bowling lineup are irrelevant; you're squaring the issue. You can't just blame the batting for losing the game because you know you have a **** bowling lineup; the **** bowling lineup is the crux of the issue.
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That argument would work if I am saying that Australia scoring above par (450-500) is okay because we had **** bowlers so that is fine. I am not saying that.

This is India day 1-2. Even if India had the bowlers they had in 2010, 400 on day 1 is a must in India. Simple as that.
 
silentstriker

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Teja. said:
Ojha should definitely be playing but so should Ashwin.
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Which is fine. I wouldn't be against that. I'm just saying if you had to pick one, the wrong one was picked. Clearly he has done well here though, so good for him. And retrospectively, it was a good decision.
 
Spikey

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of course Ashwin should have been dropped before Ojha. but neither should have been dropped if the replacement is Harby. why are you guys fighting about this.
 
Teja.

Teja.

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silentstriker said:
Which is fine. I wouldn't be against that. I'm just saying if you had to pick one, the wrong one was picked.
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I made the initial post here in jest here but that's not what you said though.

You merely said Ashwin should be dropped for bad performance in one series.
 
Burgey

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Jono said:
That argument would work if I am saying that Australia scoring above par (450-500) is okay because we had **** bowlers so that is fine. I am not saying that.

This is India day 1-2. Even if India had the bowlers they had in 2010, 400 on day 1 is a must in India. Simple as that.
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They're 20 odd short of 400. So they're not far from a pass mark anyway.

Look, let's be honest here. India have batted in Braille for two years. We've got enough. Pujara and Jono's rent boy the only threats.
 
Jono

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Burgey said:
They're 20 odd short of 400. So they're not far from a pass mark anyway.

Look, let's be honest here. India have batted in Braille for two years. We've got enough. Pujara and Jono's rent boy the only threats.
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But that's my point. Their batting is poor, but if their batting was good 400 shouldn't be too big an issue. Would be 50-50.

But their batting is ****house so Australia on top. Not the bowlers fault.
 
Satyanash89

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silentstriker said:
Well if you were going to keep him, I don't see what he did to keep his place ahead of Ojha.
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I know what youre saying... strongly agree that Ojha>Ashwin but Ashwin just had one bad series thats all. Plus hes a gun batsman. Neither Ashwin nor Ojha shouldve been dropped, thats that. The BCCI are a bunch of dick-stroking ****s who for some reason want little weedy to play his 100th test.

If ponting hadnt retired, Harbhajan wouldve been useful as that was one guaranteed wicket,.but now it just doesnt make sense
 
hendrix

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Jono said:
That argument would work if I am saying that Australia scoring above par (450-500) is okay because we had **** bowlers so that is fine. I am not saying that.

This is India day 1-2. Even if India had the bowlers they had in 2010, 400 on day 1 is a must in India. Simple as that.
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If you're going to use that argument, I will return to my original argument.

This is a turning wicket. You are playing 3 spinners against a batting lineup that cannot play spin bowling.

It's a **** bowling performance. Yes, the bowlers are ****, but it's still a **** performance.
 
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