***Official*** Australia in England 2018

[Starfighter]

I have no doubt that the team's shiteness will be used as an excuse for Pane's shiteness.

 

[fredfertang]

Presumably this lot are actually a bunch of ringers and have never been near Australia in their lives?

 

[TheJediBrah]

Finch
Warner
Khawaja/SMarsh/MMarsh/Renshaw
Smith
Lynn
Maxwell
Stoinis
Carey
Cummins
Starc
Hazlewood

could have just as much chance at the WC as any team. If they can get it together.

Even as a stop-gap, can Paine as ODI captain be justified for another series? As a batsman has shown zero capability he’s a viable option by 2018 standards and at a team level this is looking like Oz’s worst bilateral ODI series ever.

Nah Paine's finished in ODIs. They were in a position where they pretty much had to go with him for this series for the sake of continuity and rebuilding but I doubt he would have even been selected for this series as a player if not for everything that went on.

 

[Top_Cat]

In fairness after the start i can understand it and sending in someone to keep it going knowing you have the form man to come. If Stoinis had hit 40 off 25 then we would all say it was a genius decision.

Yeah and if he came in and slapped the spinner to someone behind square second ball, what sort of decision would one label it?

Oh that's what happened.

It's not a poor decision because it didn't come off, it's poor because it was so goddamn much less likely to come off than not. You don't win many games with that sort of hit-and-hope bollocks.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Yeah and if he came in and slapped the spinner to someone behind square second ball, what sort of decision would one label it?

Oh that's what happened.

It's not a poor decision because it didn't come off, it's poor because it was so goddamn much less likely to come off than not. You don't win many games with that sort of hit-and-hope bollocks.

Like you lot know what winning is anyway. You were getting thumped the other way anyway so trying something different was worth it. It failed but at least it wasn't same **** different day.

 

[GoodAreasShane]

Lynn is not the solution, personally think he shouldn't even be considered unless he can actually get through a decent amount of cricket. It isn't even like his list A stats are anything to write home about anyway

 

[TheJediBrah]

Yeah and if he came in and slapped the spinner to someone behind square second ball, what sort of decision would one label it?

Oh that's what happened.

It's not a poor decision because it didn't come off, it's poor because it was so goddamn much less likely to come off than not. You don't win many games with that sort of hit-and-hope bollocks.

That's the only way this team is going to win a game though. Batting properly and being lucky to get to 300 clearly doesn't work. Taking dumb risks and hoping you get a defendable total might.

Lynn is not the solution, personally think he shouldn't even be considered unless he can actually get through a decent amount of cricket. It isn't even like his list A stats are anything to write home about anyway

Disagree. He's exactly the mould that is working for England on flat wickets. And his List A stats are irrelevant. You know he's hardly played a List A game for 3-4 years? A result of Australia's dumb af "play all the games in 3 weeks in Sydney" List A tournament. If you're injured you don't play One Day games that year.

edit: Agree about his fitness though. This is assuming he actually becomes fit enough to not be a complete liability in the field.

 

[Top_Cat]

Like you lot know what winning is anyway. You were getting thumped the other way anyway so trying something different was worth it. It failed but at least it wasn't same **** different day.

That's the only way this team is going to win a game though. Batting properly and being lucky to get to 300 clearly doesn't work. Taking dumb risks and hoping you get a defendable total might.

Could not disagree any more with either of these ****s.

 

[quincywagstaff]

Finch
Warner
Khawaja/SMarsh/MMarsh/Renshaw
Smith
Lynn
Maxwell
Stoinis
Carey
Cummins
Starc
Hazlewood

could have just as much chance at the WC as any team. If they can get it together.



Nah Paine's finished in ODIs. They were in a position where they pretty much had to go with him for this series for the sake of continuity and rebuilding but I doubt he would have even been selected for this series as a player if not for everything that went on.

That squad looks good on paper but it feels like going back to the past and hoping 2015 occurs all over again.

How many players have come through and established themselves since the last WC? Hardly any. Stoinis pretty much had but this series has been a couple of steps back for them. It feels like Oz will go back to the ‘old guard’ for next year which is understandable but I doubt it will work; could turn out like Sri Lanka’s 1999 title defence where a dynamic side looked dreary and flat by the next WC.

 

[Top_Cat]

Not like anyone gives a **** about this series anyway.

 

[91Jmay]

Finch
Warner
Khawaja/SMarsh/MMarsh/Renshaw
Smith
Lynn
Maxwell
Stoinis
Carey
Cummins
Starc
Hazlewood

could have just as much chance at the WC as any team. If they can get it together.



Nah Paine's finished in ODIs. They were in a position where they pretty much had to go with him for this series for the sake of continuity and rebuilding but I doubt he would have even been selected for this series as a player if not for everything that went on.

Batting order is behind the other top teams and 0 spin bowling could kill you on a slow, low pitch.

However those pace bowlers can win a WC on their own.

 

[Borges]

Well, at least Root is being exposed for the fraud that he is.

 

[Starfighter]

So much for Carey.

 

[Top_Cat]

Decent debate about what's the worst dismissal today, though. Plenty of candidates.

a) Finch's swing batta batta swing.
b) Head's Plunkett plonk to short mid
c) Stoinis ****** Schweep
d) SMarsh Daman
e) The Paine of Suicide

Choose your poison.

 

[TheJediBrah]

That squad looks good on paper but it feels like going back to the past and hoping 2015 occurs all over again.

How many players have come through and established themselves since the last WC? Hardly any. Stoinis pretty much had but this series has been a couple of steps back for them. It feels like Oz will go back to the ‘old guard’ for next year which is understandable but I doubt it will work; could turn out like Sri Lanka’s 1999 title defence where a dynamic side looked dreary and flat by the next WC.

It's all about peaking at the right time. There's more than enough talent there to win the WC. The 2015 side wasn't that special. Smith just made 50-100 every game and Starc blew all the batsmen away. Maxwell and Watson were probably the only other 2 players, and maybe Faulkner as a bowler (useless with the bat), who really pulled their weight.

The rest of the team chipped in here and there but were nothing special. Finch was in **** form after 1 good game against England, Warner didn't do much except one game against Afghanistan. Haddin did nothing. Clarke was done as a player and probably shouldn't have even been in the team.

Just needs Smith to anchor and a couple of the bats to hit form at the right time, and the bowlers to fire with some consistency and we're golden. The trickiest parts will be 1) everyone being fit and 2) selectors not going full r***** and picking a stupid team.

 

[Starfighter]

Decent debate about what's the worst dismissal today, though. Plenty of candidates.

a) Finch's swing batta batta swing.
b) Head's Plunkett plonk to short mid
c) Stoinis ****** Schweep
d) SMarsh Daman
e) The Paine of Suicide

Choose your poison.

There's your answer.

 

[fredfertang]

Well he was out on the piss last night

 

[GoodAreasShane]

Disagree. He's exactly the mould that is working for England on flat wickets. And his List A stats are irrelevant. You know he's hardly played a List A game for 3-4 years? A result of Australia's dumb af "play all the games in 3 weeks in Sydney" List A tournament. If you're injured you don't play One Day games that year.

edit: Agree about his fitness though. This is assuming he actually becomes fit enough to not be a complete liability in the field.

Sorry, but I simply don't buy the argument that his T20 ability would automatically transfer to ODI cricket, not for a second. Do agree on the domestic one day format though

 

[Top_Cat]

f) Umm, The Agar

 

[TheJediBrah]

Ashton's clearly been working with Maxwell in the nets