*Official* Argentina vs Germany (Quarter-Final Three)

[silentstriker]

The players seemed really unselfish...I thought for sure a couple players would have taken their shots but instead they passed to teammates in slightly better positions.

 

[Jarquis]

Not Test standard eh?

A serious question, when comparing players, do football fans count the goals against North Korea and other countries with bad teams?

Regularly used as an argument against England's own Peter Crouch.

 

[BoyBrumby]

A serious question, when comparing players, do football fans count the goals against North Korea and other countries with bad teams?

Yes & no, tbh. They're counted the same, but judgement is generally reserved.

Take Peter Crouch; he has a very decent scoring record for England (21 in 40), but they've mostly come against average teams. He's seen as an FTB as a striker.

EDIT: Beaten to it.

 

[grecian]

Not Test standard eh?

A serious question, when comparing players, do football fans count the goals against North Korea and other countries with bad teams?

There's not much cross-country comparison, because you get some players in teams who play a lot of sub-standard internationals, and play many, many games. I don't think Ali Daei is considered a great by many. the Guys from the big nations in that list are though.

So it's just who is most scorer for your nation really that matters. Bobby Charlton is ours, and it's still looking strong ATM, despite everything.

Yet, in general we think a goals a goal. not many stat-mongerers in football thankfully

Edit: Even though, clearly Crouch an exception.....

 

[Pothas]

Well, that wasn't a surprise.

Messi is still some way off Maradona, Pele and even Zidane in the greatness stakes, maybe that was Maradona's plan all along. Should have taken a leaf or two out of Tevez's book today.

And yeah, even England look much better in retrospect.

This is such a crap point, it is fairly obvioust that for all Maradona's failings he is desperate for Messi and his team to do well.

Anyway Argentina's defence was awful and the Germans were great, still fancy Spain (If they get past Paraguay of course) to get past them though, will be a great match though

 

[grecian]

This is such a crap point, it is fairly obvioust that for all Maradona's failings he is desperate for Messi and his team to do well.

Anyway Argentina's defence was awful and the Germans were great, still fancy Spain (If they get past Paraguay of course) to get past them though, will be a great match though

Yeah, Maradona wanted them to do well, but he made Kevin Keegan look a tactical genius, little shape, little plan, just not an International coach, which it doesn't pain me to say

 

[L Trumper]

Muller missing semis is absolute bull ****. Thats not an yellow card for gods sake. An exciting young player missing biggest match of his career because he got booked twice in 5 games, both of'em being ridiculously soft.

 

[vcs]

This is such a crap point, it is fairly obvioust that for all Maradona's failings he is desperate for Messi and his team to do well.

Anyway Argentina's defence was awful and the Germans were great, still fancy Spain (If they get past Paraguay of course) to get past them though, will be a great match though

Yeah, that was a low blow, sorry. Can't question the man's passion, I've even seen him attend Argentina's Davis Cup ties. But he's clueless tactically and passion doesn't win you matches against opposition like Germany.

 

[L Trumper]

Give maradona a rest guys; Even capello got owned by german tactics. Germans are preparing based on their opponent rather playing a particular style. Besides germany's first goal is not maradona's fault, defenders are just piss poor in set pieces at the start of the match.
He is a bad coach, but not as bad as people want to portray him.

 

[Quaggas]

The big moment was obviously 1-0 after 3 min, when that ball boy, whatshisface, scored - which allowed Germany to play with less pressure. On the other hand, I must say Schweinsteiger did looked awfully nervous throughout.

I think I'll just have to take the money I owe the IRS and use it buy some coke to drown my sorrows.

 

[Teja.]

The big moment was obviously 1-0 after 3 min, when that ball boy, whatshisface, scored - which allowed Germany to play with less pressure. On the other hand, I must say Schweinsteiger did looked awfully nervous throughout.

I think I'll just have to take the money I owe the IRS and use it buy some coke to drown my sorrows.

'Ball boy whatshisface' also happens to be the joint highest scorer in the tournament with three of his four goals coming against England and Argentina FYI.

 

[Quaggas]

'Ball boy whatshisface' also happens to be the joint highest scorer in the tournament with three of his four goals coming against England and Argentina FYI.

Sarcasm directed at Maradonna for his remarks and actions. But, ok, I'll give it a rest now.

 

[Teja.]

Sarcasm directed at Maradonna for his remarks and actions. But, ok, I'll give it a rest now.

Ah, I apologize! Missed it.

 

[Craig]

I'm sure somewhere Esteban Cambiasso is chuckling to himself.

 

[marc71178]

So, is Jerome Boateng now doing it for Africa?

 

[wpdavid]

No, him being level with Gerd Muller is a big enough insult. It's like Clayton Lambert having the same average as Bradman.

I can cope with Muller being overtaken - the bugger caused me way too much pain in 1970.

 

[wpdavid]

This is such a crap point, it is fairly obvioust that for all Maradona's failings he is desperate for Messi and his team to do well.

Probably true, but did you see Maradona & Messi after the Germany game? The manager trying to give his star player a hug, and Messi absolutely not buying into it at all.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Full marks to the hundred or so England fans in the crowd who at the end of the match taunted the Argie fans with chants of "We only lost 4-1".

 

[Matteh]

The big moment was obviously 1-0 after 3 min, when that ball boy, whatshisface, scored - which allowed Germany to play with less pressure. On the other hand, I must say Schweinsteiger did looked awfully nervous throughout.

I think I'll just have to take the money I owe the IRS and use it buy some coke to drown my sorrows.

That'll be the same Schweinsteiger who looked composed and went on a mazy run resulting in a goal?

 

[Quaggas]

That'll be the same Schweinsteiger who looked composed and went on a mazy run resulting in a goal?

See reply to Teja. Should have used "nervoush," I guess. Schweini MoM, obviously.