*Official* 2022 New Zealand Tour of England, Ireland, Scotland & Netherlands

[straw man]

Just thinking about a combined XI for the series, it's hard to nail down because some of the top performers for the series hold the same spots in their respective XI's. Maybe something like:

Lees, Bairstow, Pope, Root, Mitchell, Stokes, Blundell, Potts, Boult, Anderson, Leach

That tail is nightmare fuel, but with the amount of runs in 2-7 I don't suppose it matters. Tough on Jonny as well probably, but you can't leave either player out, nor can you justify batting one of them at 3 given how poor the openers were, and Mitchell had a nigh perfect series with the bat.

Yeah basically England with three replaced by Mitchell, Blundell and Boult. Probably make Pope open instead of Bairstow.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Ironically before the tour I would have had 8 NZ players and 3 English ones (Root, Stokes, and Anderson) in a combined XI. Crazy how things worked out.

 

[Skyliner]

The comments about Bazball and the England team were meant to be irrespective of the outcome of the game. Coaches have a honeymoon period, the headlines write themselves. How much if this approach would have been introduced by Stokes regardless of McCullums appointment? We’ll never know. Let’s see where they are tracking in 18 months. Dream start for him anyway.

 

[Immenso]

We would probably be playing Ireland in a test match right about now as per the original FTP schedule.

 

[TheBrand]

SKY just confirmed they are not showing any of the Blackcaps white ball games in NZ. No word from Spark yet.

 

[Skyliner]

‘‘Bazball’ has already become the talking point of Australia's test camp in Galle.

Players have jokingly yelled the phrase out on playing an aggressive shot in the nets, while also keeping an eye on England's chases back at the team hotel.’

 

[SteveNZ]

The comments about Bazball and the England team were meant to be irrespective of the outcome of the game. Coaches have a honeymoon period, the headlines write themselves. How much if this approach would have been introduced by Stokes regardless of McCullums appointment? We’ll never know. Let’s see where they are tracking in 18 months. Dream start for him anyway.

Its ok to admit you made a misstep. No biggie

 

[Days of Grace]

Why such the long wait before the white ball stuff starts? Did the team fly home? There are some players such as Latham who are part of both squads so the question is what the hell they are doing over there?

 

[NZTailender]

Why such the long wait before the white ball stuff starts? Did the team fly home? There are some players such as Latham who are part of both squads so the question is what the hell they are doing over there?

We would've been playing a test right now so idk I guess in getting more money making white ball stuff they just thought they'd give players time to relax? who knows with this outfit

 

[ataraxia]

Looks like the games are on Spark.

 

[ashley bach]

Ironically before the tour I would have had 8 NZ players and 3 English ones (Root, Stokes, and Anderson) in a combined XI. Crazy how things worked out.

Yeah basically England with three replaced by Mitchell, Blundell and Boult. Probably make Pope open instead of Bairstow.

Hopefully with a wee bit of luck after the coming tour, we'll be back to an XI that has 10 kiwis and Josephine the great.
Not only that, it went so badly Bazball will be in negotiations as to whether he'll be retained for the ashes.
On a more realistic note, it will make for great viewing, England are normally appalling down under so anything could transpire.
This week that they have planned in Queenstown sounds like a fun holiday, maybe it's a genius move and makes great team bonding, or perhaps it just
makes them sloppy and lazy, who the heck knows with Baz the Bazball.

 

[Chewie]

Allen and Phillips making their ODI debut, Nicholls in the middle order, Milne out with a minor injury and Santner only just arrived in the country so won't be playing.

 

[Moss]

Must be frustrating being Milne with injury after injury, but hopefully he’s getting by well enough with all these T20 gigs around the world.

Hope all of Phillips, Allen, Cleaver and Duffy are starters today. Time to audition as many newer players as possible in white ball before it gets too late. Would be cool if Ferguson too is back to playing full series with NZ now.

 

[ataraxia]

Cleaver should finally get his NZ debut this tour. He's been extremely unlucky to not play a game earlier.

 

[Tom Flint]

Bit of good old fashioned CW cherry picking from me, wasn't it?

Having said that, I feel like there's extenuating circumstances with Broad. He was hit badly by Varun Aaron, and I think that was a turning point for him? (Seems to be borne out by his batting average from 2014 onwards) None of our guys have been badly hit, they're just scared. Or refuse to bat properly. And with one guy who does it, and bats at 9 like Broad, it's not a massive issue. If our 8-11 is Jamieson, Southee, Boult and Henry, we have 4 guys who slog without any sense of responsibility. The worst thing is, all of them have considerable ability and if anyone of them or any person says 'that's the best way for them to play', bull****. Jamieson is a former opening bat, who started his Test career playing properly but now is a slogger. Henry made 50 against a touring SA T20 team to announce himself, then chose to bat like his idol T.Southee. Boult has an incredible eye (4 handicap golfer, once won batsman of the year at a senior New Zealand club champs one-day tournament) but bats like a fools head. And we all know about the hot mess that is Southee's batting. We could carry one, but 3-4 is taking the piss.

I can't wait until that attitude and approach is gone. This series had too many lame lower order moments. It's been going on for years, ever since Jeetan Patel ran away to square leg in South Africa, then forward to Boult being caught at deep third man in the first Test of 2015 trying to save the match on the final afternoon, and to now.

Is a 4 handicap that good? I know it's better than most club golfers but it isn't that great.

 

[nzfan]

Must be frustrating being Milne with injury after injury, but hopefully he’s getting by well enough with all these T20 gigs around the world.

Hope all of Phillips, Allen, Cleaver and Duffy are starters today. Time to audition as many newer players as possible in white ball before it gets too late. Would be cool if Ferguson too is back to playing full series with NZ now.

Will only be watching for Allen, Phillips, Lockie and Duffy. Cleaver if he's playing.

It's starting to bore seeing Guptill, Latham, Nicholls and the likes bashing up lesser attacks.

 

[nzfan]

Hope we win the toss and bat first. The game can be decided in less than 10 overs if Allen goes for it. Although his recent scores for Yorkshire in t20 blast isn't all that great.

His recent returns 3, 16, 29, 11, 1

Strangely he's not set this tourney on fire. Scored 190 runs in 9 games but with a strike rate of 175 which is pretty good.

One day cricket and red ball has not been his strong suit so far. That said he's fully capable of scoring at a good rate if he gets in. Hit and miss but hoping it's a hit today.

 

[slippy888]

Ireland could shock the world here

 

[nzfan]

Ireland could shock the world here

We're not that bad, particularly the bowling. Besides you can be rest assured Guptill, Latham and Nicholls have this habit of scoring a lot of runs vs lesser sides.

 

[Flem274*]

Oof that's not fun for McBrine but great response. Nice.