England just need to bat normally until lunch, ideally 30-0. Pick up the pace in the afternoon maybe and get to 140-150, then see if it's worth going for later on. But NZ can just go defensive when they like - spread fields, wide and short bowling, etc. Wickets are the currency though. You think England could only be two down at tea if they're going for it.
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*Official* 2022 New Zealand Tour of England, Ireland, Scotland & Netherlands
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Fuller Pilch
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Make it difficult so we can maintain attacking fields right through. The law of averages is that Root and Foakes will fail and the rest of them are pretty mediocre. We'll bowl them out for 180.
Burgey
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Lolwut? 300 in two and a bit sessions on day five with no fielding restrictions? This isn’t stuck* cricket ffs
*edit: stick. Though given this is an NZ thread, I’ll take the typo
Xuhaib
International Coach
No way england chasing 300 @ 4 and a bit if some how you get root before tea I think NZ will be favourites even if England is 3 down.
nzfan
International Vice-Captain
Really? We've set them 299 off 72 overs at 4.1 on 5th day pitch. Which team would be insane to try and chase that particularly leading the series 1-0. Don't think even Stokes and Baz would be that positive.
If England decide to shut shop it will be a tame draw.
We're 1 down already and we're happy to draw 1-1 or lose 2-0?
Fuller Pilch
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Also if Macewell bowls well (huge if) we might be able to bowl a few more overs if needed.
thierry henry
International Coach
I know context exists, but watching the 10 dismissals in that innings back to back is laughable.
Burgey
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They had two days to chase 250 last test.
Red_Ink_Squid
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Stokes will definitely go for the chase.
nzfan
International Vice-Captain
I'm definitely not with this tactic of having batted out time for 12 overs and then smashing for 3-4 overs to set England 4 RPO.
Technically we didn't want to punt a loss.
Root yesterday in an interview said they're happy to chase upto 300. I don't think so unless they score 70-80 runs before lunch.
Technically we didn't want to punt a loss.
Root yesterday in an interview said they're happy to chase upto 300. I don't think so unless they score 70-80 runs before lunch.
Fuller Pilch
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Pakistan chased 300 in 60 overs on a day 5 in the UAE vs Sri Lanka a few years ago, so it is far from impossible.
Red_Ink_Squid
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A bit above the required run rate so far...
Lillian Thomson
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Morgie would now be conceding defeat after two balls.
Burgey
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Yeah all that, but it’s flat for a day five deck. If you set them 250 and they get a flier it really is on, given that would have been declaring say 45 minutes and however many overs earlier.
Genuinely think NZ’s best chance here is to do what they’ve done. Bowl eight to ten tight overs up front either side of lunch and England is out of it. Then set whatever fields you like all arvo and watch their young blokes crumble like saos in a blender.