*Official* 1st Test at the SWALEC Stadium

[Lillian Thomson]

"ribbing" must mean something very different where you're from

In England it means good natured micky taking. Still never mind. As I am in England it's bed time. Enjoy the rest of your day wallowing in bitterness.

 

[social]

Well I'm not pissed off about it, but I'm constantly going on about commentators insisting it's a defensive position and it's negative to use it, in the end if people are constantly flicking it in the air outside off-stump , as they do in the modern game, it's not just a defensive position it's a wicket-taking one too.

Fact is that they aren't playing at the WACA and many balls don't carry so you end up simply allowing players to collect boundaries almost at will from defensive pushes

 

[TheJediBrah]

In England it means good natured micky taking. Still never mind. As I am in England it's bed time. Enjoy the rest of your day wallowing in bitterness.

your last few posts have been bafflingly stupid

no one's wallowing in bitterness, though it seems you want them to be doing it so badly that you're convincing yourself they are

 

[SteveNZ]

Of all the things to be pissed off about this loss (and there were plenty as an Oz supporter), one that hasn't been spoken about is Clarke's continued refusal to put a 3rd man in

It's almost as if Bell didn't score 30% of his runs down there last time out

Just another example of how we fail to adapt whenever we play in conditions not to our liking

The use of third man is one of the poorly-handled strategies at any level of cricket, but certainly in Tests.

Cook showed it at Lord's the other way, with a third man while we were chasing millions and they could afford to be overtly attacking. And I didn't see last night, but captains can often see runs being leaked down there and have an almost arrogance of 'I'm not going to be seen to be locking the gate after the horse has bolted'.

 

[Tangles]

Not half the team for mine, but time for Nevill and MMarsh in place of Haddin and Watson.

Now's not the time for the Aust selectors to be sentimental. Make the hard call and reward form *

* inb4 anyone questions Nevill's keeping form. Whoever keeps to Starc and Johnson is gonna concede a few boundary byes.

With you on Haddin. Wish we had a better option than MM but we don't and if Watsons bowling so few overs he loses any possible edge in that department. I also think Voges needs to give the selectors something at Lords. I don't think he'll get many chances before they bring Darsh in.

 

[grecian]

The use of third man is one of the poorly-handled strategies at any level of cricket, but certainly in Tests.

Cook showed it at Lord's the other way, with a third man while we were chasing millions and they could afford to be overtly attacking. And I didn't see last night, but captains can often see runs being leaked down there and have an almost arrogance of 'I'm not going to be seen to be locking the gate after the horse has bolted'.

Was that the match the final wicket went to a catch at third man?

 

[SteveNZ]

Was that the match the final wicket went to a catch at third man?

Boult did that yeah, but a lot earlier England were pitching it up and swinging it, with a negligible gap between 3rd and gully that was plugged by a third man. It was horribly timid captaincy, and Botham et al were saying so (plus of course Warne)

 

[grecian]

Boult did that yeah, but a lot earlier England were pitching it up and swinging it, with a negligible gap between 3rd and gully that was plugged by a third man. It was horribly timid captaincy, and Botham et al were saying so (plus of course Warne)

Oh well if botham and warne were saying it fair enough.

 

[vic_orthdox]

That's exactly what Clarke did in 2013-4 and exactly how he needs to captain again.

Clarke couldn't set a field to a lot of that bowling, to be fair.

I wonder whether Starc ended up bowling first change in the second innings due to his injury, or as a message about how he actually bowled in the first innings.

 

[NUFAN]

re: third man. Have a look at the boundaries scored off Haze during the first innings. He needs a 3rd man for sure. Starc maybe not so much as he tends to need fielders protecting more areas of the ground which is probably a nicer way to say that he bowls all over the shop.

 

[Spikey]

out watson, haddin, australian flag on dressing room
in marsh, nevill, didlo flag

 

[OverratedSanity]

I just came across the fact that Afridi has more tons at a better test match average than Watson.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Good thing about a Watson dropping is that the idiot public might now notice how **** everyone else is playing, Haddin and Johnson especially.

(This post was extremely hard for me to type)

 

[duffer]

I just realised came across the fact that Afridi has more tons at a better test match average than Watson.

Boom boom.

 

[Spikey]

However, Siddle was clearly being primed for a second Test inclusion, having been the outstanding bowler in the nets ahead of this match

somehow not from nufan's thread

 

[Lillian Thomson]

your last few posts have been bafflingly stupid

no one's wallowing in bitterness, though it seems you want them to be doing it so badly that you're convincing yourself they are

It's not possible to be that dense, I never thought Cricket Web would be reduced to this.

 

[Howe_zat]

It's not possible to be that dense, I never thought Cricket Web would be reduced to this.

You're helping in a big way, so congrats for that.

He's completely right in this case. You were wrong about the idea that dropping Watson and Haddin is a kneejerk reaction - people wanted them dropped before the test. Anyone who's been reading the forum would know that. When he called you out you decided to **** fight instead of admit it, because you're just too damn superior yet again.

Now you've decide it's the entire forum's fault that you're wrong and can't admit it for what seems like the hundredth time, maybe you should act on that opinion and **** off for a bit. You won't be missed.

 

[Hurricane]

However, Siddle was clearly being primed for a second Test inclusion, having been the outstanding bowler in the nets ahead of this match

A lot seems to get read into form in the nets.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Good thing about a Watson dropping is that the idiot public might now notice how **** everyone else is playing, Haddin and Johnson especially.

(This post was extremely hard for me to type)

Yeah I totally agree. It's so funny reading Australian fans on other forums going off about how this is what happens when you pick **** players like Watson. Watson didn't have a good game but he's far from the first person I'd point the finger at, at least he didn't throw his wicket away, drop catches or bowl both sides of the wicket. I'm fine with dropping him but there are a host of other issues the team needs to address.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Watson not making the most of his form with hundreds around the 2010/11 Ashes really has hurt his overall record massively.

Ended up only really averaging 50 around that period; others have that purple patch and average 90 or so over the calendar year.