***Offical*** English Football Season 2004/05

[aussie]

hey who do u blokes think were better this current winning Chelsea side or the side that won 50 years ago?, i would say this one because after listening to a programme last night i reckon the Mourinho was a better coach that ted drake since he came from portugal with his own style brought in some players & just built a very powerul side.

while this chelsea's campaign was much better than the 1955 side with a record of 35 matches, 27 wins, 7 draws and just the soliatary defeat while the 1995 side played 42, won 20, drew 12 & lost 10

 

[Tom Halsey]

Hard to compare - the game has changed so much...

 

[luckyeddie]

Absolutely right as far as the game having changed.

It's a hell of a lot faster nowadays. I think it's likely that if you took some of the greatest teams over the last 50 years (Tottenham at the start of the 60's, Arsenal of 71, either Derby or Forest, the scousers of the late 70's, even Dirty Leeds, they wouldn't stand a prayer today and would be blown away because of fitness alone.

Mind you, if they were playing today, then they'd train in the same way as Chelsea, Scumchester, Wengerboys and the like - and probably be just as successful.

 

[Craig]

I've always advocated the National Cup winners taking a CL spot if countries are to have more than 1 - at least they'll have actually won something!

Santo Andre are competing in this season's Edition of the Copa Liberadores yet play in the Brazilan 2nd division, yet got in by being winners of the Copa do Brasil. They lost 1-0 away to Cerro Porteño of Paraguay.

 

[Craig]

Absolutely right as far as the game having changed.

It's a hell of a lot faster nowadays. I think it's likely that if you took some of the greatest teams over the last 50 years (Tottenham at the start of the 60's, Arsenal of 71, either Derby or Forest, the scousers of the late 70's, even Dirty Leeds, they wouldn't stand a prayer today and would be blown away because of fitness alone.

Mind you, if they were playing today, then they'd train in the same way as Chelsea, Scumchester, Wengerboys and the like - and probably be just as successful.

And Juventus still got favourable ref decisions back then

If you remember when Derby played against in Turin back in the early 70's (gee it must sound a long time ago?).

 

[BoyBrumby]

One of my very earliest footballing memories (I'd have been 5 or 6) was Arsenal beating Juve in the semi-final of the Cup Winners' Cup. We'd drawn 1-1 at Highbury in the 1st leg (with, IIRC Roberto Bettegga scoring in both ends & nearly breaking David O'Leary's leg with an evil challenge), but we won 1-0 in Turin with a last minute header from the late Paul Vaessen.

Course we lost on pens to Valencia in the final.....

 

[superkingdave]

Craig, rumours in the paper suggest Adriano to Chelsea this summer, either him or Eto, thoughts?

 

[Craig]

I would say there is no chance of Adriano going anywhere, and any deal would more then likely would involve Veron staying at Inter. I have worked out the exchange rate from euros to pounds which is £67.5m AFAIK. For that amount Chelsea could easily get Henry, or Roman's long time favourite player Shevchenko.

For what I have read Moratti has said no to Chelsea, and Ronaldinho has come out and admitted he is trying to get Adriano to join him at the Nou Camp. No chance of Eto'o even though I would love him there at Inter. If anything maybe Ronaldinho would end up at Inter?

 

[superkingdave]

I think Eto'o is considered the favourite to be at Stamford Bridge next year, Shevchenko was mentioned but they said he's too heavily involved at Milan to be prised away, and Adriano was the other name mentioned. Kezman is supposedly on his way back to PSV

 

[marc71178]

Would Veron going to Inter reduce or increase the cash element of the deal (assuming the straight cash was eg €100m, would it then move to €125m + Veron?)

 

[Craig]

I would say it would be the former, not the later.

Has it been mentioned in England with Everton and Newcastle apparently interested in Emre, again another option for a Veron swap deal.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Women's FA Cup final on BBC2 right now...

 

[Scaly piscine]

Heh @ that miss

It's like non-league in slow motion

 

[steds]

Heh @ that miss

It's like non-league in slow motion

not only is he extemely anti-Arsenal and anti-foreign, he's also ***ist!! Scaly Piscine, the all-singing all-dancing bias machine

 

[steds]

Come on Everton!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Magrat Garlick]

not only is he extemely anti-Arsenal and anti-foreign, he's also ***ist!! Scaly Piscine, the all-singing all-dancing bias machine

Women's football is slagged off (pun not intended) anywhere in the world - fact of life.

Bet none of you know that the women's Euro is in England this year, either...

 

[Scaly piscine]

not only is he extemely anti-Arsenal and anti-foreign, he's also ***ist!! Scaly Piscine, the all-singing all-dancing bias machine

Not my fault some 'deity' saw fit to make women useless at sport and make Frenchmen so fundamentally dislikeable...

 

[steds]

Bet none of you know that the women's Euro is in England this year, either...

I do

 

[steds]

Women's football is slagged off (pun not intended) anywhere in the world - fact of life.

As are most things women do. And then you attack Sam when she says the same type of things you all say about women all the time

 

[Magrat Garlick]

As are most things women do. And then you attack Sam when she says the same type of things you all say about women all the time

Your sister got hold of your computer, Sean?