Next Test Nation???

[laksh_01]

Great Ireland are the WCL Div 1 Champions. Congrats for the way they played. They were unbeaten in the tournament inspite of not having their best players. Is this enough for them to be considered for test status???

Final Standings:
1) Ireland
2) Scotland
3) Afghanistan
4) The Netherlands
5) Canada
6) Kenya

Should wait n see how the full strength Ireland fair against Bangladesh in the upcoming ODI series. Should they beat them 2-0, things might turn up interesting for them.

Wat are Ur opinions? Should Ireland be a test nation after 2011 Cricket World Cup?

 

[Debris]

Ireland and Scotland have always been part of the country known (by historical misnomer) as "England" though. They're never going to amount to much on their own, TBH. And if they were to do so, it'd be a shame, frankly.

The Irish, at least, might take issue with that. They are not even part of Great Britain. Does a team have to be a world power to play test cricket? There are probably 50 national teams in football which are not going to amount to much.

I think I spot an ulterior motive here.

 

[Migara]

Great Ireland are the WCL Div 1 Champions. Congrats for the way they played. They were unbeaten in the tournament inspite of not having their best players. Is this enough for them to be considered for test status???

Final Standings:
1) Ireland
2) Scotland
3) Afghanistan
4) The Netherlands
5) Canada
6) Kenya

Should wait n see how the full strength Ireland fair against Bangladesh in the upcoming ODI series. Should they beat them 2-0, things might turn up interesting for them.

Wat are Ur opinions? Should Ireland be a test nation after 2011 Cricket World Cup?

both IRE and AFG should be awarded test status. Afghans have been beating Ireland for fun in last few months.

 

[IrishOpener]

both IRE and AFG should be awarded test status. Afghans have been beating Ireland for fun in last few months.

I just don't see how Afghanistan could be awarded Test status, yes they have beaten Ireland a few times, but as far as I know it's four wins for Afghanistan and three for Ireland, not exactly a commanding lead,

and Ireland have won all that can be won in the Associate levels, and have won many of them multiple times, I think it would be highly unfair to grant Afghanistan Test status over Ireland or even with Ireland,


@ Richard, Ireland is a free country, our own rules and laws and we have many things in common, but we are not a part of Britain, and we might make something more of our Cricket team if we were to have the use of Morgan and Joyce, and Morgan is the only batsman to save England in the last T20 World Cup against Ireland...

 

[slowfinger]

both IRE and AFG should be awarded test status. Afghans have been beating Ireland for fun in last few months.

This.

 

[marc71178]

I just don't see how Afghanistan could be awarded Test status, yes they have beaten Ireland a few times, but as far as I know it's four wins for Afghanistan and three for Ireland, not exactly a commanding lead,

But that doesn't suggest that Ireland are the clear dominant force in associate cricket, which would bring into doubt any further elevation at this stage.

 

[IrishOpener]

But that doesn't suggest that Ireland are the clear dominant force in associate cricket, which would bring into doubt any further elevation at this stage.

I might be wrong but I feel if we were to play them again we would win again, I feel we have their match now and are used to them, and add in Joyce and Marshall and we can only be stronger, especially being the case with Joyce, Irelands greatest cricketer arguably,


As I said I could be wrong, but I don't think we will get status anytime soon, we only have a handful of stadiums capable of showing big cricket games,

Anyways it's beyond my control, I'll just sit back and enjoy cricket for now (''.)...

 

[IrishOpener]

This.

Four wins against Ireland doesn't make them the best associate level nation, it came to the test of the World Cricket League and we showed how we are with six wins from six,

The future will be good for Irish Cricket I believe and hope, sorry if I seem really pro Irish Cricket just as passionate as any other Cricket loving fan (''.)...

 

[IrishOpener]

This.

Four wins does not make them the best associate level team, it came to the World Cricket League and we showed who we are, without our top players and six wins from six,


Anyways I hope and believe the future for Irish Cricket is strong,

Sorry if I come across really pro Ireland, I'm just like any other passionate Cricket fan of his/her own Country, (''.)...

 

[Flem274*]

I think if Marshall ever got back to his old heights (instead of the free wicket he was in his later years) and Morgan was returned, Ireland's batting could make something of themselves.

The bowling is the big question.

 

[Prince EWS]

I think if Marshall ever got back to his old heights (instead of the free wicket he was in his later years) and Morgan was returned, Ireland's batting could make something of themselves.

The bowling is the big question.

Ireland's bowling would be pretty useful in Irish conditions. It'd be dire in the vast majority of conditions away from home though. Like Bangladesh really.

 

[Flem274*]

Ireland's bowling would be pretty useful in Irish conditions. It'd be dire in the vast majority of conditions away from home though. Like Bangladesh really.

Irish conditions would be pretty similar to England and NZ I guess?

Boyd Rankin would be all right around the traps, but the rest...any chance they can pull a Netherlands and find their equivalent of Nannes?

They could copy England and raid SA.

 

[Prince EWS]

Irish conditions would be pretty similar to England and NZ I guess?

Yeah, much more exaggerated though. Accurate medium pacers who can move the ball both ways would be pretty effective even against Test standard batsmen from the little I've seen/read, and they certainly have a few of those.

 

[Jezroy]

ireland's bowling would be pretty useful in irish conditions. It'd be dire in the vast majority of conditions away from home though. Like bangladesh really.

awta

 

[Uppercut]

Yeah, much more exaggerated though. Accurate medium pacers who can move the ball both ways would be pretty effective even against Test standard batsmen from the little I've seen/read, and they certainly have a few of those.

Pitches aren't that similar to those in New Zealand, in particular spinners tend to do much more damage. Hence we're treated to the sight of Regan West making England's top order look like they're batting with balloons.

Hard to say how effective they'd be in a test match because at the moment they're so tailored towards ODI cricket. As ol' Dicko always said, it's difficult to gauge the ability of a player in one form of the game by watching him play another. Besides, the personnel wouldn't even be the same. Peter Connell averages 17 with the ball in Intercontinental Cup matches but in ODIs he rarely gets a look in at all anymore.

 

[Jezroy]

Pitches aren't that similar to those in New Zealand, in particular spinners tend to do much more damage. Hence we're treated to the sight of Regan West making England's top order look like they're batting with balloons.

Hard to say how effective they'd be in a test match because at the moment they're so tailored towards ODI cricket. As ol' Dicko always said, it's difficult to gauge the ability of a player in one form of the game by watching him play another. Besides, the personnel wouldn't even be the same. Peter Connell averages 17 with the ball in Intercontinental Cup matches but in ODIs he rarely gets a look in at all anymore.

With this in mind (spinners and medium pacers being effective) would LOVE to see a home and away first class series with Bangladesh, even Zim. We all know where Bangladesh sit against the other test playing nations, so surely they would be a good gauge to see where Ireland, Zim, Netherlands, Afghans, etc sit. If Bangladesh give these teams hidings in the longer form, then they're nowhere near ready. But if these other teams can take the Bangers down... Mind you Kenya could take it to the Bang once, now they are on the slippery slope.

 

[laksh_01]

I would luv to see a Tri-Series (ODIs) between Bangladesh, Ireland & Zimbabwe in B.Desh by the end of this year... If Ireland does well in that too then they surely deserve Test Status. (or permanent ODI status with at least 75% of a full member funding & regular matches in FTP). Out of all it will be a good WC build-up for all the teams.

Tri-Series should have this format:
Match 1 - Bangladesh v Ireland, Chittagong
Match 2 - Bangladesh v Zimbabwe, Chittagong
Match 3 - Zimbabwe v Ireland, Chittagong
Match 4 - Bangladesh v Ireland, Dhaka
Match 5 - Bangladesh v Zimbabwe, Dhaka
Match 6 - Zimbabwe v Ireland, Dhaka
Match 7 - Final, Dhaka

How better does this look than 7 match bi-lateral series between 2 nations.

 

[Athlai]

Come on guys it was one match at home against Bangers where Porterfield stood up. We see this from the likes of Kenya all the time.

 

[Jezroy]

Interestingly, there was a new test team once every decade for the last 3 (SL in 1982, Zim in 1992, Bang in 2000), and in the case of the last 2, it really came off the back of showings at the World Cup. Wonder how long till Ireland get their chance?

 

[Jezroy]

Come on guys it was one match at home against Bangers where Porterfield stood up. We see this from the likes of Kenya all the time.

Used to... I think what it highlights is if these teams CAN do this to Bangladesh - why don't they deserve more games against some of the higher ranked teams when Bangladesh seem to get their fair share (especially against NZ...)