New Zealand Off Season 2014

[Bahnz]

Jeets celebrates his hattrick with his impression of Virat Kohli.

 

[Kippax]

It has usually been a war on both fronts for Jeets, let's face it.

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[Prince EWS]

Aside from not playing for ND though, you'd think Patel would actually be an agribusiness sort of player. I've always felt he was a much better player in theory than reality which should fit right into the agribusiness model of players as valued commodities.

 

[Kippax]

Nah, agribusiness says the subtle vanilla notes you've claimed to enjoy whenever you've cracked open a bottle of Jeets, Tim Johnston or Ashton Turner are "piss-weak", if not complete fiction ftr.

 

[Prince EWS]

Nah, agribusiness says the subtle vanilla notes you've claimed to enjoy whenever you've cracked open a bottle of Jeets, Tim Johnston or Ashton Turner are "piss-weak", if not complete fiction ftr.

It depends which way you look at it I suppose.

I would've thought an agribusiness analysis of Jeets would point to his county record as evidence for him being a massive class above all the other spinners in the country, ignoring the fact that the other spin options haven't had the opportunity to play country cricket. However, it's equally possible the exact opposite would be true and an agribusiness analysis would conclude Jeets is no better than Craig, Sodhi, NcCullum or Nethula because they all have poor PS records.

Somewhere in between those two positions lies a truth, but somewhere in the middle is the one spot we can rule out agribusiness occupying.

 

[Flem274*]

I'd be really curious to see the other guys who try to be real 4 day spinners like Craig, Johnston etc have a bowl in county cricket. The guys we have who have a limited overs focus or style would still be ineffective over there, and Sodhi's success is entirely dependent on what his pitch map looks like this week but Jeets' success makes me think some of our guys are hard done by and their records would look a lot better if they played their cricket somewhere that isn't New Zealand.

 

[hendrix]

Nah Jeets is and has always been a class above our domestic spinners.

 

[ohnoitsyou]

Jeets is the best spinner outside the SC not named Narine.

 

[Flem274*]

Jeets is a contender for most overrated bowler in the world thanks to his fans.

And Nathan Lyon is a billion miles better than him. Lyon is a lot better than Narine too.

 

[Prince EWS]

Nah Jeets is and has always been a class above our domestic spinners.

Yeah but Phlegm didn't say they'd all average 20 over there; he just said:

Jeets' success makes me think some of our guys are hard done by and their records would look a lot better if they played their cricket somewhere that isn't New Zealand.

Tim Johnston averages 59 with the ball in First Class cricket; he'd definitely have a much better record in county cricket for mine and he wouldn't need to be Jeets-esque to do so.

 

[Kippax]

Looks like a pillar of agribusiness there, letting Johnston down.

 

[Athlai]

If Jeets didn't ever bowl in NZ he'd be the BSOS-C according to CPL.

 

[Athlai]

It has usually been a war on both fronts for Jeets, let's face it.

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Best post ever.

 

[ohnoitsyou]

Jeets is a contender for most overrated bowler in the world thanks to his fans.

And Nathan Lyon is a billion miles better than him. Lyon is a lot better than Narine too.

Lyon is an above average to test standard spinner. For all his failures in test cricket, he has the best action of any off spinner in world cricket atm, he always gets drift and loop, can turn it square if conditions suit and has finally developed the cricket brain he's always hinted at. His record for the bears is exceptional, lyon might be able to better it in one format, but all three, not a chance. He's churning out great performance after great performance, and I mean clean bowling KW, just so gun

 

[Hurricane]

I don't think Lyon has the right mental approach or attitude for bowling and while I do see him as a long time solution for Australia and as a test standard player - I don't see him fulfilling his potential or ever going through an extended purple patch.

 

[Flem274*]

Jeets has looked good since he was 20 years old and has often being called a "bowls well without luck" player.

He doesn't take test wickets when he's bowling well. He doesn't take test wickets when he's bowling poorly. He can't outperform his comtemporaries in the Shield or average less than 40 in it and feasts on turners against crappy County batsmen.

Nathan Lyon is a good spinner who plays his home games in the second suckiest place for a finger spinner to bowl after South Africa. He's a gun.

I've always put on the Jeets hate because he's Athlai's favourite player and has a cult following. He's completely inoffensive and innocuous really, I just like to go fishing. However, Jeetan is not better than Nathan Lyon and never will be. Let's stop revising history and pretending we have this amazing finger spinner who was oh so unlucky to play most of his cricket in the Vettori era before being ignored by the evil anti-Wellington spinner conspiracy.

He was given plenty of chances and was able to get 52 wickets at nearly 50. Jesus, last night I had people defending Suranga Lakmal. None of these players are good at test cricket. Deal with it.

 

[ohnoitsyou]

Jeets has looked good since he was 20 years old and has often being called a "bowls well without luck" player.

He doesn't take test wickets when he's bowling well. He doesn't take test wickets when he's bowling poorly. He can't outperform his comtemporaries in the Shield or average less than 40 in it and feasts on turners against crappy County batsmen.

Nathan Lyon is a good spinner who plays his home games in the second suckiest place for a finger spinner to bowl after South Africa. He's a gun.

I've always put on the Jeets hate because he's Athlai's favourite player and has a cult following. He's completely inoffensive and innocuous really, I just like to go fishing. However, Jeetan is not better than Nathan Lyon and never will be. Let's stop revising history and pretending we have this amazing finger spinner who was oh so unlucky to play most of his cricket in the Vettori era before being ignored by the evil anti-Wellington spinner conspiracy.

He was given plenty of chances and was able to get 52 wickets at nearly 50. Jesus, last night I had people defending Suranga Lakmal. None of these players are good at test cricket. Deal with it.

Tbf Australian pitches break up a lot more than ours do making them a lot better for any spinner. I'm pretty sure that if Jeets was eligible, he would be playing India right now and whether Jeets would take test wickets is kind of irrelevant when we have Ish ****ing Sodhi in the side. Maybe if he had ever been given an extended run in the side instead of dropped when he coudn't take wickets against the team Warne failed against with a hundred times the scoreboard pressure, or knee jerked off the ship after South Africa/Zimbabwe this discussion wouldn't be happening

 

[Flem274*]

Or maybe he's just not a test bowler, as 19 tests of being not a test bowler would indicate.

 

[hendrix]

Or maybe he's just not a test bowler, as 19 tests of being not a test bowler would indicate.

I'm all for simplifying things, but deliberately ignoring contributing factors to a record is just negligent IMO.

You don't have to rate him but it's silly to completely dismiss his abilities.

 

[Flem274*]

I think he is a very good first class bowler in England, a world class fielder and a good guy.

But that's it.