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New ICC Test rankings

Salamuddin

International Debutant
ICC Championship table
Position Team Points
1 Australia 127
2 South Africa 112
3 England 103
4 India 102
5 New Zealand 101
6 Pakistan 99
7 Sri Lanka 94
8 West Indies 82
9 Zimbabwe 55
10 Bangladesh 1


Is it true that even if England lose their forthcoming series against NZ, they still retain their no. 3 spot ?
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
jamesryfler said:
ICC Championship table
Position Team Points
1 Australia 127
2 South Africa 112
3 England 103
4 India 102
5 New Zealand 101
6 Pakistan 99
7 Sri Lanka 94
8 West Indies 82
9 Zimbabwe 55
10 Bangladesh 1


Is it true that even if England lose their forthcoming series against NZ, they still retain their no. 3 spot ?
Nope

formula
 

a massive zebra

International Captain
jamesryfler said:
ICC Championship table
Position Team Points
1 Australia 127
2 South Africa 112
3 England 103
4 India 102
5 New Zealand 101
6 Pakistan 99
7 Sri Lanka 94
8 West Indies 82
9 Zimbabwe 55
10 Bangladesh 1


Is it true that even if England lose their forthcoming series against NZ, they still retain their no. 3 spot ?
India should be in the top 3 - they have the best batting lineup in the world and last time they played the 3rd placed team they won at home and did not lose away. Furthermore, the 3rd placed team would have very long odds on drawing the Ashes in Australia! India are also, man for man, a far stronger side than the country that invented the game.

Zimbabwe should have a points tally closer to Bangladesh than West Indies.

Otherwise the ratings look acceptable but I would like to know why Sri Lanka are 7th while England manage to attain 3rd place despite the former utterly outplaying the latter, admitedly at home.
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
a massive zebra said:
India should be in the top 3 - they have the best batting lineup in the world and last time they played the 3rd placed team they won at home and did not lose away. Furthermore, the 3rd placed team would have very long odds on drawing the Ashes in Australia! India are also, man for man, a far stronger side than the country that invented the game.

Zimbabwe should have a points tally closer to Bangladesh than West Indies.

Otherwise the ratings look acceptable but I would like to know why Sri Lanka are 7th while England manage to attain 3rd place despite the former utterly outplaying the latter, admitedly at home.
You'll just have to be patient for the new Pickup ratings
 

Neil Pickup

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luckyeddie said:
You'll just have to be patient for the new Pickup ratings
The wait is over.

1 Australia 1567 (-1)
2 South Africa 1089 (+4)
3 New Zealand 1022 (+2)
4 India 951 (+29)
5 England 935 (+61)
6 Pakistan 804 (-17)
7 Sri Lanka 702 (+9)
8 West Indies 543 (-53)
9 Zimbabwe 287 (+8)
10 Bangladesh 45 (n/c)

India and Pakistan haven't changed too much because, even though the series hadn't been played before in recent times, the system 'expected' a fairly close result (I havent bothered getting my head round exactly how yet) so an India win only gave them a smallish boost - but enough to keep a resurgent England (their highest total since September) behind them . The West Indies fall further back into ignominy, and the rest of the status quo is maintained. Check for a full update later, as there's a thunderstorm coming here and I don't really fancy fried modem.

Exploding the Sri Lankan myth - especially for Chris
They are ranked seventh by my system (and I assume by the Kendix/ICC one, too) because their series wins are almost all at home (barring Pakistan and Zimbabwe, who have awful home records), resulting in a very poor away ranking [607pts], whilst their home wins only tend to be narrow, unless they're playing very poor sides - hence not as much credit is received. The England series win [ranked at 1.42 my system] is the highest-scoring series they have on record.

The Neil Pickup/CricketWeb Test Rankings - Release 14
 
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marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
a massive zebra said:
India are also, man for man, a far stronger side than the country that invented the game.

That's an interesting one, but I wouldn't say far stronger man for man.

Just going down the most recent Test XI's I'd say it's close.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
koch_cha said:
i think india deserve 3 place than england if u look into recent performance
I wouldn't be so sure - England's recent performances are on the whole pretty good
 

Lions81

U19 Cricketer
marc71178 said:
Quite a shock there's no ODI's I'd say!
They play South Africa right afterwards so there's no time to squeeze it all in. And plus since we can't beat Australia in ODIs, what's the point? I say we refuse to play them anymore in them! :D
 

Neil Pickup

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Tom Halsey said:
I reckon we are deserved 3rd place - we have played well recently.
We've been smashed in Sri Lanka in all fairness. We've not beaten New Zealand in a series in six/seven (?) years, India in a similar length of time and South Africa again. We have not won enough series to have a strong enough claim for outranking NZ, or being a large distance apart from India (in all fairness, 16 points is negligible).
 

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