My Top 100 Test Bowlers of all-time

[weldone]

However, it does seem total career wickets may carry a little too much weight. Is that why Peter Pollock doesnt make it?

Yeah, I was considering another model with less weightage attached with total career wickets.....You would've liked that xcept the fact that it was leaving Warne out of the top chunk......Also the fact that I didn't find some important statistics from any website didn't help.

 

[Goughy]

Crunching some numbers in an old formula of mine, here are the top 17 Post-war seam bowlers (according to the method)

1. Hadlee
2. Marshall
3. Trueman
4. Lillee
5. McGrath
6. Donald
7. Ambrose
8. Imran
9. Holding
10. Peter Pollock
11. Reid
12. Wasim
13. S. Pollock
14. Garner
15. Walsh
16. Waqar
17. Tyson

1 NZ, 2 Eng, 3 Pak, 3 SA, 3 Aus and 5 WI

 

[weldone]

Crunching some numbers in an old formula of mine, here are the top 17 Post-war seam bowlers (according to the method)

1. Hadlee
2. Marshall
3. Trueman
4. Lillee
5. McGrath
6. Donald
7. Ambrose
8. Imran
9. Holding
10. Peter Pollock
11. Reid
12. Wasim
13. S. Pollock
14. Garner
15. Walsh
16. Waqar
17. Tyson

1 NZ, 2 Eng, 3 Pak, 3 SA, 3 Aus and 5 WI

Decent but the order is highly debatable....Is it only considering test match record, or some first class record as well?

 

[Goughy]

Decent but the order is highly debatable....Is it only considering test match record, or some first class record as well?

Purely Test record.

I dont think its that debatable. Sure Bruce Reid is in there but he had a great record and was impossible to play.

Cant argue much with a top 5 of
1. Hadlee
2. Marshall
3. Trueman
4. Lillee
5. McGrath

 

[Days of Grace]

It is interesting that my list has Davidson ahead of Wasm. Now, I would rather Wasim ahead, but actually, apart from quantity stats such as number of wickets and 5/10 fors, Davo beats Wasim in all important departments: average, wickets per match, 5-fors per match, etc.

 

[taitmachine]

Interesting that if you take out Murali's matches against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh, his rating drops down to 1076.

Still leaves him clearly ahead though.

 

[Days of Grace]

Now, Murali's rating is 1044 against non-minnows. Barnes is on 996. If Murali's average against non-minnows (currently 23.87) climbs to 24, then Barnsey will be snapping at his heels.

 

[Migara]

Interesting that if you take out Murali's matches against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh, his rating drops down to 1076.

Nothing more to be said!

 

[Migara]

IThat's from a man who's watched the game for >50 years... Take note youngsters.

With an awful eye sight as a result of his age.

 

[neville cardus]

And BTW, that person was some Donald Bradman, I believe....

Don just had a Hair problem.

 

[neville cardus]

I apologize for that, but still there are a lot of glaring mistakes in the ratings system

Yeah, for Peate's sake! What's Bobby doing ahead of Ted?

 

[neville cardus]

Just for making people angry at not being able to criticize.... ..... By the way one is free to praise if one likes this list

You scare me.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

I declare my top 41 bowlers in tests, my own list according to my own choice, and I don't invite any fights please.....If anyone is not happy with my list, he is free to declare his own list, but not to fight pointing at my list, please...If anyone feels this list is bad I acknowledge but don't invite any fight:

1 M. Muralitharan
2 G. McGrath
3 S. Warne
4 C. Ambrose
5 R. Hadlee
6 M. Marshall
7 C. Walsh
8 S. Pollock
9 W. Akram
10 I. Khan
11 W. Younis
12 A. Donald
13 F. Trueman
14 D. Lillee
15 J. Garner
16 R. Willis
17 M. Holding
18 D. Underwood
19 S. Barnes
20 R. Lindwall
21 J. Statham
22 A. Bedser
23 J. Laker
24 J. Gillespie
25 C. Grimmett
26 A. Davidson
27 A. Kumble
28 M. Ntini
29 R. Benaud
30 I. Botham
31 A. Roberts
32 J. Snow
33 K. Miller
34 W. Hall
35 S. Akhtar
36 C. McDermott
37 G. Lock
38 H. Streak
39 D. Gough
40 H. Tayfield
41 B. Bedi

Just for making people angry at not being able to criticize.... ..... By the way one is free to praise if one likes this list

No because it is based on some statistical analysis done by me (which I won't disclose)....There were some cut-offs for total no. of wickets, averages and certain other things and only these 41 could cross all those cut-offs....

By the way, I am not fully happy with this statistical analysis...I feel there's area to improve...

The first post says it was "choice" and the second says it was an "undisclosed" "statistical analysis". If it's choice then there is no argument, but if there's a numerical formula involved it would be interesting to see how it came to some of the conclusions.

 

[BhupinderSingh]

It is interesting that my list has Davidson ahead of Wasm. Now, I would rather Wasim ahead, but actually, apart from quantity stats such as number of wickets and 5/10 fors, Davo beats Wasim in all important departments: average, wickets per match, 5-fors per match, etc.

Imran Khan should also be much higher because he played around 20 tests as a specialist batsman.

 

[Ikki]

Imran Khan should also be much higher because he played around 20 tests as a specialist batsman.

How did you figure that? He bowled every test bar 7.

 

[neville cardus]

Imran Khan should also be much higher because he played around 20 tests as a specialist batsman.

I realise that, for you, Imran Khan is a veritable daemon, but quite how you can justify using his batting to champion his bowling is beyond the all-too-limited bounds of my mind. Do explain.

 

[neville cardus]

Wait! It all makes sense now. Well, all of it except the bit about his being a specialist for twenty games. Some validation would go down as nicely as a Knysna oyster.

 

[neville cardus]

It could also be argued that Imran's playing as a specialist bat should count against him rather than in his favour.

 

[shortpitched713]

It could also be argued that Imran's playing as a specialist bat should count against him rather than in his favour.

It hurts him in the wickets/match criteria, although to what extent I'm not too sure.

 

[Burgey]

Wait! It all makes sense now. Well, all of it except the bit about his being a specialist for twenty games. Some validation would go down as nicely as a Knysna oyster.

Knysna - I've been there. It's a beautiful spot.