Days of Grace
International Captain
Yes. We need at least one example of how you worked out, say, Viv Richard's rating?
Also, no Stanley Jackson? Do you have a cut-off point for test matches played?
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My Test Cricket Ratings to the end of 2007
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Also, no Stanley Jackson? Do you have a cut-off point for test matches played?
Neil Pickup
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Ouch. That's embarrassing. I knew I was pretty wiped-out last night but I wasn't quite aware how wiped-out I was... 6996 runs, obv...99.94.
I never thought this day would come!
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Neil Pickup how's life ?
The Honourable FS Jackson does actually make it into my top 100 albeit at a rather lowly 89. I feel he probably deserves to be slightly higher but in my defence i think it is very difficult to rate 19th century batsmen when so few test were played and so few players were involved. To be the best of his era in the 1890s meant that he was the best of maybe 20 test batsmen as opposed to later eras where there was much more competition. Add to that the fact that all his 33 test innings were on home soil and I think it shows that although he may have been one of the greatest he did not really have the chance to prove it beyond doubt.
Days of Grace
International Captain
So, once again mate, give us an example of how you work out a batsman's rating, please. :-)
The factors I have taken into account when calculating my rankings are as follows:
1.Total number of runs scored
2.Average
3.Year of test debut
4.Highest LG ICC rating
5.Number of runs scored in 'away' tests
6.Percentage of 'not outs'
The minimum qualification is 500 test runs.
The actual calculation involves lots of square roots to try and get the balance between players who have played a few tests but have a high average against players who have played loads of tests and average 35 say.
The year of test debut basically gets a higher rating the further back you go. With approximately a 20% increase for pre-world war 1 players and a sharper decrease for present day players due to relative difference in averages of top players in those periods. This is to try and get a balance between players of different eras.
The reason for including the LG ICC ratings is that it gives a good comparison of how good players were at their peak and also incorporates who they scored their runs against. This helps a player like Viv Richards who had an outstanding couple of years at the middle of his career but whos final average had decreased after a couple of poor years at the end of his career.
I have included away runs as most players score more heavily in home tests and so this balances out those who may have played the majority or even all of their tests either at home or away. It also balances out any differences between countries who are considered to have better batting wickets. Although historically there is actually not a lot of difference between countries other than brief fluctuations which could could be for a variety of reasons (such as that country actually having very good batsmen at that time)
I have also included number of not outs as it can make a big difference to the averages of players who have not played many tests and also helps balance the ratings of opening batsmen who have less opportunities to be not out and also have to face the new ball bowlers every time.
The full calculation is too complex to explain here and would probably be much easier to understand if I could actually just email you the spreadsheet.
1.Total number of runs scored
2.Average
3.Year of test debut
4.Highest LG ICC rating
5.Number of runs scored in 'away' tests
6.Percentage of 'not outs'
The minimum qualification is 500 test runs.
The actual calculation involves lots of square roots to try and get the balance between players who have played a few tests but have a high average against players who have played loads of tests and average 35 say.
The year of test debut basically gets a higher rating the further back you go. With approximately a 20% increase for pre-world war 1 players and a sharper decrease for present day players due to relative difference in averages of top players in those periods. This is to try and get a balance between players of different eras.
The reason for including the LG ICC ratings is that it gives a good comparison of how good players were at their peak and also incorporates who they scored their runs against. This helps a player like Viv Richards who had an outstanding couple of years at the middle of his career but whos final average had decreased after a couple of poor years at the end of his career.
I have included away runs as most players score more heavily in home tests and so this balances out those who may have played the majority or even all of their tests either at home or away. It also balances out any differences between countries who are considered to have better batting wickets. Although historically there is actually not a lot of difference between countries other than brief fluctuations which could could be for a variety of reasons (such as that country actually having very good batsmen at that time)
I have also included number of not outs as it can make a big difference to the averages of players who have not played many tests and also helps balance the ratings of opening batsmen who have less opportunities to be not out and also have to face the new ball bowlers every time.
The full calculation is too complex to explain here and would probably be much easier to understand if I could actually just email you the spreadsheet.
Days of Grace
International Captain
yeah I'd like that.
So basically, it's all done by computer then? I do mind by only with the help of Microsoft Excel, so I only update after every test/odi series.
b.t.w. do you have one for bowlers and ODIs?
So basically, it's all done by computer then? I do mind by only with the help of Microsoft Excel, so I only update after every test/odi series.
b.t.w. do you have one for bowlers and ODIs?