sayon basak
International Regular
Whom do you rate as the top 5 bowlers?
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Muttiah Muralitharan vs Ian Botham
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Johan
State Captain
1. Malcolm Marshall
2. Glenn McGrath
3. Richard Hadlee
4. Curtly Ambrose
5. Dale Steyn
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
sayon basak
International Regular
So yeah, top 5. Would swap Kallis and Miller.
DrWolverine
State 12th Man
Great list
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Ambrose is overrated.
Johan
State Captain
reason I've him over Spinners is I believe he is more threatening to the actual batters
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Migara
International Coach
this shows what the batsman was on when dismissed.reason I've him over Spinners is I believe he is more threatening to the actual batters
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Since pace bowlers take the new ball and spinners then only come in, the numbers are a non shocker.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Problem for me is that I have little confidence Ambrose will do well in the SC. That's too big a hole. No real sample in Ind and SL one good and one horrible series in Pak.reason I've him over Spinners is I believe he is more threatening to the actual batters
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Half of his career he didn't have pace and wasn't particularly skilled at cutters or swing to succeed there.
kyear2
International Coach
Would disagree on that one.
I don't count Bradman as two batsmen, but the only bowling all rounder who would even come relatively close in primary skill, Hadlee, lacks the batting impact to even make a difference.
kyear2
International Coach
I would not.
Please see above.
For me, and I repeat, for me.... For any player to even come close to Bradman, I would have to rank their primary skills at least in the absolute highest tier for said discipline. That already excludes all but Hadlee and Sobers. Hadlee's batting, in my opinion does nothing to fill that gap.
kyear2
International Coach
Why is Gilchrist not seen as an all rounder? In the modern game, the wicketkeeper is literally the 2nd all rounder spot.
kyear2
International Coach
Some extended clips from the WI vs England '88 series and some subsequent ones found their way into my YouTube feed this week.reason I've him over Spinners is I believe he is more threatening to the actual batters
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Before the surgery Ambrose was as good as anyone, and better than most. After the surgery, he may not have been destroying you, but he was taking wickets and you still couldn't hit him. Easily top 5 for me, and really close behind Steyn.
kyear2
International Coach
Ok.
I love how you're able to air your "views" with clear intent, but no one else is, unless they're "bitter".
Ambrose was the greatest ever in Australia and one of the best in England . Even after his surgery no one could hit him and he was still taking wickets.
Who else in the 90's was able to do what he did.
You opinions on what he couldn't have done, are just that.