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Move over Gillchrist....

sledger

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
C_C said:
The only moving over Gilly should be doing is to protect the slip cordon from his farts.

I dont care if Dhoni turns out greater than Bradman.... as far as ODIs go,i WILL NOT compare an upstart newbie with an established veteran until he plays ATLEAST 100 or so matches in the modern context.
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exactly, its far to early to start saying that dhoni is better than many of the other keepers in the world let alone gilchrist at this stage of his career, all it will take will be about 8 innings where he fails to make above 10 in a row and he will be sacked and long forgotten, joining patel and karthik on the scrap heap.
 
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psxpro

Banned
GladiatrsInBlue said:
I'm going to ignore irritants here who think they are too smart and act like fools.


Anyway Dhoni did well in his thrird match of the series, three consecutive good figures.Keep it up !
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Who is a bigger legend, Pathan or Dhoni?
 
SquidAU

SquidAU

First Class Debutant
I think it would be better to wait and see how Dhoni does outside the sub-continent before anyone makes any conclusions....
 
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yohanna

Banned
There is no question about Dhoni, he seems to be very talented and can go places.Interestingly India have been struggling to find a decent wk/bat since a long time.Dhoni might solve their problem.

BTW, who/what is IKP ???
 
SJS

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
psxpro said:
Who is a bigger legend, Pathan or Dhoni?
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You have to ask their nephews and the kids in their neighbourhoods because thats the only place where they might be anything close to being legends. :p

Your sarcasm is misplaced by the way.
 
sledger

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Pratyush said:
To think some one had the audacity to compare Gilly and Dhoni!
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yes your right, lets compare him to courtney browne instead :p its rather obvious to me that browne is the superior in every aspect of the game.
 
honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Frankly, I don't know why all this fuss is happening about Dhoni. The guy plays one good knock and then plays an okay knock and a few bad ones and he is 'suddenly' the answer to all our problems. He has shown the tendency to drive the ball on the up, off either foot and struggled ever since the Pak pacers started bowling short of length to him. His 47 off 64 balls wasn't a great inning at all.... Dravid could have played that sort of a knock. The purpose of sending him at 3 was to get quick runs and he didn't do that in that match. It would have made better sense to have him at no.7 regularly and only send him up at 3 on the odd occassions... I still think he is the best guy to keep for India in ODIs, but I am already seeing that he has more than a few flaws in his technique and I am not really positive about that guy.
 
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amit1

Banned
well said GladiatorsInBlue:)

also, :@ to c that some indians made fun of dhoni in this thread saying that he can never be better than gilchrist. i have cn these forums and the standard of indian support by most of the indian posters is very poor. they just dont know how to appreciate a new and upcoming indian player and dont even seem to know the facts about indian players.

guys, whether u like it or not, but dhoni is better than gilchrist. even these stats show it -

stats for 2005
Code: 
Name                Mat    I  NO  Runs   HS     Ave     SR 100 50   Ct St Team
MS Dhoni             19   18   5   727  183*  55.92 108.34   2  2   14  5 IND
AC Gilchrist         24   24   2   881  121*  40.04 105.50   2  3   36  3 ICC-XI/AUS
and there career stats -
Code: 
             mat  inns  no  runs   hs    ave     bf     sr     100   50  4s   6s   ct   st 
MS Dhoni     22   21    6   746   183*   49.73   685   108.90   2    2   57   30   18   7 
AC Gilchrist 222  216   9   7542   172   36.43   7878   95.73   12   42  908  106  323  42
guys, dhoni beats gilchrist on both career strike-rate and ave for 2005 and also in there whole career and still some ppl say that gilchrist is better than dhoni.
 
Hazza

Hazza

U19 Cricketer
Unfortunately your stats do not prove much, considering that Dhoni has only played 20 odd test matches. Remember that Dhoni is also a keeper, not just a batsman with gloves on, but his catching and stumping statistics are below Gilchrists (Gilchrist has caught more than double Dhoni in the last year). It seems to me that you are judging a keeper on his batting alone.
 
atichon

atichon

School Boy/Girl Captain
amit1 said:
well said GladiatorsInBlue:)

also, :@ to c that some indians made fun of dhoni in this thread saying that he can never be better than gilchrist. i have cn these forums and the standard of indian support by most of the indian posters is very poor. they just dont know how to appreciate a new and upcoming indian player and dont even seem to know the facts about indian players.

guys, whether u like it or not, but dhoni is better than gilchrist. even these stats show it -

stats for 2005
Code: 
Name                Mat    I  NO  Runs   HS     Ave     SR 100 50   Ct St Team
MS Dhoni             19   18   5   727  183*  55.92 108.34   2  2   14  5 IND
AC Gilchrist         24   24   2   881  121*  40.04 105.50   2  3   36  3 ICC-XI/AUS
and there career stats -
Code: 
             mat  inns  no  runs   hs    ave     bf     sr     100   50  4s   6s   ct   st 
MS Dhoni     22   21    6   746   183*   49.73   685   108.90   2    2   57   30   18   7 
AC Gilchrist 222  216   9   7542   172   36.43   7878   95.73   12   42  908  106  323  42
guys, dhoni beats gilchrist on both career strike-rate and ave for 2005 and also in there whole career and still some ppl say that gilchrist is better than dhoni.
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Wrong thread ! That's where it should be.
http://forum.cricketweb.net/showthread.php?t=13164
You should even apply for Vice President in SJS company, in charge of fake indian stats
 
luckyeddie

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Hazza said:
Unfortunately your stats do not prove much, considering that Dhoni has only played 20 odd test matches. Remember that Dhoni is also a keeper, not just a batsman with gloves on, but his catching and stumping statistics are below Gilchrists (Gilchrist has caught more than double Dhoni in the last year). It seems to me that you are judging a keeper on his batting alone.
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One-dayers - not test matches.
 
Pratters

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Hazza said:
Unfortunately your stats do not prove much, considering that Dhoni has only played 20 odd test matches. Remember that Dhoni is also a keeper, not just a batsman with gloves on, but his catching and stumping statistics are below Gilchrists (Gilchrist has caught more than double Dhoni in the last year). It seems to me that you are judging a keeper on his batting alone.
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He hasnt played even one test match yet ;)
 
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