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Mohammed Yousuf/Yousuf Youhana

Xuhaib

International Coach
social said:
Immense talent but struggles with bounce and pressure - the quinitssential flat track bully

Look at the last series in Eng - some great scores but failed miserably on the only wicket that had anything in it for the bowlers.

And it's not just failing, it's how he gets out on bouncy wickets - backs away and gives the slips catching practice

That's typical of his career
Getting out twice to Monty once with an over-confident late-cut and the other time to a dodgy decision.
 

nightprowler10

Global Moderator
Just a note, Yousuf holds the Pakistani record of having scored the most number of test runs in a calender year. With 1315 runs he is well ahead of the next Pakistani on the list, Inzamam with 1090 runs in the year 2000. And barring any injuries, he still has two more tests to go in this year.
 

a10khan

School Boy/Girl Captain
social said:
Immense talent but struggles with bounce and pressure - the quinitssential flat track bully

Look at the last series in Eng - some great scores but failed miserably on the only wicket that had anything in it for the bowlers.

And it's not just failing, it's how he gets out on bouncy wickets - backs away and gives the slips catching practice

That's typical of his career
Do you even know how he got out on those two occasions?

I hate the double standards. Peiterson had a mediocre tour to Pakistan but still is hailed as the next great thing. Hogwash..

Yousuf has immense talent but only since last 2 years he has rightly upped the tempo. He doesn't flash outside off stump as often now, plays the moving ball better and actually has also developed a temperament to play long/match-winning knocks.

To call him a great is being too quick, but he's certainly one of the world's best, and has finally come out of Inzamam's shadows.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Xuhaib said:
Getting out twice to Monty once with an over-confident late-cut and the other time to a dodgy decision.
Haha I was thinking that but wasn't sure and couldn't be bothered checking the scorecard.

My immediate thought was "didn't he go out to Monty twice that test, hardly proves he's useless against bounce."

Anyone that can ton up against an in-form McGrath, Kaspa and Gillespie on Australian soil surely has shown he's on the rise, and is improving. And that was 2 years ago.
 
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nightprowler10

Global Moderator
social said:
Immense talent but struggles with bounce and pressure - the quinitssential flat track bully

Look at the last series in Eng - some great scores but failed miserably on the only wicket that had anything in it for the bowlers.

And it's not just failing, it's how he gets out on bouncy wickets - backs away and gives the slips catching practice

That's typical of his career
Pretty baseless post there seeing his recent performances as others have proven.
 
social said:
Immense talent but struggles with bounce and pressure - the quinitssential flat track bully

Look at the last series in Eng - some great scores but failed miserably on the only wicket that had anything in it for the bowlers.

And it's not just failing, it's how he gets out on bouncy wickets - backs away and gives the slips catching practice

That's typical of his career
Thats pure bull****
 

FRAZ

International Captain
http://www.lgiccrankings.com/test/batting/all-time-ranking.php Woah Yousaf joins the top 20 bunch ever to have scored 900+ ICC ranking points . Yup sure this bunch includes all the flat track bullies for example Viv Richards , Sunil Gavaskar , Sir Don etc etc etc . I certainly would like to keep Yousaf in my team even though for some internet expert is a "flat track bully" ..What a great bully bunch of 20 we have !
 
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Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
The ICC Rankings are a bit weak though, I mean Lara at 19, Tendulkar at 21. I'm pretty sure that Sachin Tendulkar is a better batsman than Mohammad Yousuf, no disrespect intended.
 

shortpitched713

International Captain
Perm said:
The ICC Rankings are a bit weak though, I mean Lara at 19, Tendulkar at 21. I'm pretty sure that Sachin Tendulkar is a better batsman than Mohammad Yousuf, no disrespect intended.
Problem is, you're not supposed to look at the rankings that way. A player's ranking at any particular time, gives an indication of his form over a decent period of time. So the top 20 rankings of all time don't give a measure of how good batsman X was, it shows the highest peak in form that batsman X has ever had. Since Tendulkar has been more reknowned throughout his career for his consistency, rather than his brilliance over a short period of time, its naturally going to underrate him. Lara's rating is a little harder to understan, but I think it can be attributed to the fact that his brilliant performances have been pretty spread out over a long period of time. Plus, he'll often make big scores after extended lean patches, so when he's in form he has to make up for the lower rating he had before.

If anything, Yousef's current rating just shows how excellent of touch he's in right now. It doesn't necessarily mean he's a great, after all Vaughan had a great run of form too earlier in his career, but you can't say his career has marked him out to be a great.
 

FRAZ

International Captain
Ok may be Mohammad Yousaf is the flat track bully but the top 10 bar may be Viv Richards suggests otherwise !
1 D.G. Bradman AUS 961 961 v India, 06/02/1948
2 L. Hutton ENG 945 945 v West Indies, 30/03/1954
3 J.B. Hobbs ENG 942 942 v Australia, 19/08/1912
4 P.B.H. May ENG 941 941 v Australia, 23/08/1956
5 C.L. Walcott WI 938 938 v Australia, 11/06/1955
5 I.V.A. Richards WI 938 938 v England, 27/03/1981
5 G.S. Sobers WI 938 938 v India, 13/01/1967
8 R.T. Ponting AUS 937 937 v South Africa, 24/03/2006
9 M.L. Hayden AUS 935 935 v England, 07/11/2002
10 E.D. Weekes WI 927 927 v New Zealand, 03/03/195
And I guess if Sir Don is at the top then no body should doubt it . And if Sir Hutton is second then its fine . And bar may be Weekes and Rich this top 10 list might become digestable but being a flat track bully joining top 20 (becomes the only exceptional case) ?
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
FRAZ said:
Ok may be Mohammad Yousaf is the flat track bully but the top 10 bar may be Viv Richards suggests otherwise !
1 D.G. Bradman AUS 961 961 v India, 06/02/1948
2 L. Hutton ENG 945 945 v West Indies, 30/03/1954
3 J.B. Hobbs ENG 942 942 v Australia, 19/08/1912
4 P.B.H. May ENG 941 941 v Australia, 23/08/1956
5 C.L. Walcott WI 938 938 v Australia, 11/06/1955
5 I.V.A. Richards WI 938 938 v England, 27/03/1981
5 G.S. Sobers WI 938 938 v India, 13/01/1967
8 R.T. Ponting AUS 937 937 v South Africa, 24/03/2006
9 M.L. Hayden AUS 935 935 v England, 07/11/2002
10 E.D. Weekes WI 927 927 v New Zealand, 03/03/195
And I guess if Sir Don is at the top then no body should doubt it . And if Sir Hutton is second then its fine . And bar may be Weekes and Rich this top 10 list might become digestable but being a flat track bully joining top 20 (becomes the only exceptional case) ?
Nah. Its just about there being a lot more flat tracks now than in Don Bradman's time.

If he performs in places like South Africa, I will become a believer.
 

FRAZ

International Captain
silentstriker said:
Nah. Its just about there being a lot more flat tracks now than in Don Bradman's time.

If he performs in places like South Africa, I will become a believer.
I guess he gotta average above 50 atleast against SA, And I am sure he can !
 

FRAZ

International Captain
And by the way What is the record amount of runs in a calender year by a player ? I guess Yousaf has good 2 matches still to go . I don't know if it is the possibility or not ?
 

Dasa

International Vice-Captain
FRAZ said:
And by the way What is the record amount of runs in a calender year by a player ? I guess Yousaf has good 2 matches still to go . I don't know if it is the possibility or not ?
Viv Richards in 1976 with 1710 runs at an average of 90 with seven 100s. Yousuf would need 396 runs from the next two Tests against the Windies to get the record. Not impossible, but unlikely.
 
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